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Old 09-02-2016, 11:55 AM   #1
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Sick of the people trying to get into my truck/van/house/garage.

I can't and won't move right now but I can add cameras anywhere on my small lot. Small rambler and detached garage up against a shared alley/driveway with section 8 townhomes.

Im thinking I could put a camera at each soffit corner of home/garage and possibly one at front door/garage service door.

I'd wire it all to the inside of my home thru a conduit in ground.

Questions I have are, what do I get/use?!

I've never installed or been apart of planning/using these but want something that isn't a weeks pay! Lol

I put this in off topic because it's for me personally and I felt it didn't deserve
to distract people in other categories...
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Old 09-02-2016, 12:03 PM   #2
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Hikvision ip cams are solid, dvr has the necessary poe switch built in, easy to install quick setup and the resolution will hold up in court. Can be had for reasonable prices at most distributors


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Do it like they do in Langley, VA where there are cameras watching the cameras. In a best case scenario, every camera is in view of another camera.
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Hikvision ip cams are solid, dvr has the necessary poe switch built in, easy to install quick setup and the resolution will hold up in court. Can be had for reasonable prices at most distributors


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Install a sprinkler system and have the valve operated by a motion sensor.
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Maybe I could swing the one looking in you bathroom window around and watch the van for you.

Tell your wife to shave more....
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I think I like Jh's idea best! Lol
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Very true, this is what I've used the most. Granted, I'm the installer and not the designer. From what I've seen during walkthroughs with the designer and customer, Hikvision offers a variety of cameras so you can match them to your application, there's an app/program that allows you to view the cameras through your phone, they're poe so just a cat5E to each camera, and equipment & image quality is pretty nice. The NVR/DVR is probably the most expensive part of the project.
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From what I've seen the nvr can be had off amazon for less than 200$ so I imagine the distributor should be at least on par if not less. There a variety of models just make the one you get has poe built in. In my experience it's best to run cat6 tho cat5e will do fine. Hik also give you a free ddns service for remote viewing that's also easy to setup.


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Majewski, do you have motion detectors on your outside lighting? I am all for cameras but I'd put these even ahead of cameras. If you use motion sensors separate from the light fixtures, you can make them work with the cameras and other automation, but that might be more trouble than you want.

I think the Hikvision stuff is okay, and it is cheap.
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At the moment All I have is a front door and back door and lamp post light. I removed all of the garage lighting to re wire the inside/exterior of it. I am open to all sorts of ideas. Right now I am thinking of doing a new trench and a few 1" sch40 lines from house to garage and even a gas line.
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Just do wireless ones. All you have to give them is power.
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I want to run more conduit anyways, it's not solely because of this.... just melting different ideas out loud.
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Lights are a good deterrent if they draw attention to the person prowling around. Sometimes if the light that comes on isn't in view of the house or the neighbors, they won't care. With the sensor separate from the light fixture, you can have motion on any side of the house light the lights on all four sides of the house. This can be accomplished as simple as sensors and a relay, or complicated as part of an automation / alarm system.

With a detached garage, an alarm is excellent. You don't necessarily need the whole system, just a single motion in there, and a siren, and if you want, turn on the lights. The alarm systems are cheap, it's the monitoring that adds up over time. You can use it unmonitored, just rely on the siren / lights, or self monitor - have it call your phone rather than the police. I'd definitely run a 1" conduit minimum to the garage for low voltage, even though a lot can be done wireless.
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There's more reliably in wired gear. Wireless will depend on wifi connection quality, and you'll need a cloud recording solution.


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Just do wireless ones. All you have to give them is power.
But if you are going to run a cable, you might as well run cat 5e, you can use it for power or network or analog video. But if you have cat 5e, why bother with wireless cameras? Wired are simpler, cheaper, and more reliable, and more variety available.
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But if you are going to run a cable, you might as well run cat 5e, you can use it for power or network or analog video. But if you have cat 5e, why bother with wireless cameras? Wired are simpler, cheaper, and more reliable, and more variety available.


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Definitely more reliable. You can put an SD card in the camera, but you probably won't be able to get as much storage as you would with a DVR / NVR.
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I have cheap chit jelly jar fixtures for the sides of the garage door and side of service door now. I love the idea of sensor kicking them all on!

I just have to wire them....... I still haven't put my sub or any conduit in the garage yet and I insulated and walled it up last year!

I did get cabinets and a new prehung in though! lol
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I use a nest cam for keeping an eye on my dogs when I'm away. 10$ a month for cloud recording and even with you can only access motion or sound triggered events so I didn't bother past the free trial with the "review". The only things I'd stay away from are the pre packaged nonsense you'll find at a Best Buy or whatever big box, Costco etc. the prices will be attractive but the quality overall is not there. Digital watchdog isn't a bad alternative either.


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From what I've seen lately most guys are using hik ip for good quality and decent margin. Speco is another I've installed a lot and if you have two cent worth of network knowledge setup is pretty easy


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