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Old 04-22-2014, 10:31 PM   #1
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Seems like most threads on here end up as an argument. I'm just wondering if there's people that know each other in the real world and have issues with each other, or if it's just on here. I only recently got back on here from a couple years ago, I don't remember it being quite as dramatic back then. I've learned tons on here, it's really awesome reading some of you guys posts on things I've never even heard of! I hate it when it goes south though and the point is lost before a solution is given. Reminds me of that old show LOST. just when it starts getting good, it gets all WTF. Maybe there should be a "fight thread" started so that people could just "take it outside" ?
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Seems like most threads on here end up as an argument. I'm just wondering if there's people that know each other in the real world and have issues with each other, or if it's just on here. I only recently got back on here from a couple years ago, I don't remember it being quite as dramatic back then. I've learned tons on here, it's really awesome reading some of you guys posts on things I've never even heard of! I hate it when it goes south though and the point is lost before a solution is given. Reminds me of that old show LOST. just when it starts getting good, it gets all WTF. Maybe there should be a "fight thread" started so that people could just "take it outside" ?
Electricians seem to be their own worst enemy. I've seen it for 43 years and then into this forum. It is hard to explain but it has something to do with an electrician being somewhat of a "Professional". With so much knowledge that is necessary to perform well in this trade it is kind of easy to misspeak and possibly give erroneous information and the next guy...wanting to espouse the he/she is MORE PROFESSIONAL...and knows more, jumps to throw them under the bus. It is a shame. I DO think that this forum is a good place to learn.
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it used to be a good place to learn

Ive learned a lot here myself

and until certain members that are currently here are gone it wont get any better

some people just feel the need to **** on every positive thing here
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it used to be a good place to learn

Ive learned a lot here myself

and until certain members that are currently here are gone it wont get any better

some people just feel the need to **** on every positive thing here
Hang in here with us. I think it can get better. This IS a good forum in which to learn. I always thought that I was a good electrician until this rewire in my kitchen. I am humbled by the experience and knowledge of a house wireman.
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Some of it is fun to read! I'm all in with giving a guy who screws up a hard time in a funny way! Seems like there's history with some of the fights though, it gets real personal it seems. I was just curious if that all that history is on here.
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What you got riveter, I'm a resi guy mostly.
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What you got riveter, I'm a resi guy mostly.
Mostly, it is not being able to locate the actual hots at the switches. This new non- contact tester beeps and lights on everything. When I switch to the normal contact tester I get readings even from the neutrals to the egcs. It is weird stuff that as an industrial electrician I did not encounter. The house has to be wired right, I suppose. It has been here for about 30 years.
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Electricians seem to be their own worst enemy. I've seen it for 43 years and then into this forum. It is hard to explain but it has something to do with an electrician being somewhat of a "Professional". With so much knowledge that is necessary to perform well in this trade it is kind of easy to misspeak and possibly give erroneous information and the next guy...wanting to espouse the he/she is MORE PROFESSIONAL...and knows more, jumps to throw them under the bus. It is a shame. I DO think that this forum is a good place to learn.
I agree with this totally. Because we are at the top of the food chain it creates a cess pool of hungry sharks ready to piss the furthest. I think it's petty and immature. At work I tend not to throw out my brains because of this and if I do I do it in front of the right people (Other people I feel that are like me)This site helps me get that out because I love being an electrician and am constantly thinking about it, even off the clock. I don't think I offend anybody here, I may get a little immature at times but so does everybody else.
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Seems tame around here lately I thought.
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lets fix that. on a lighter note your problem is you let rewire into your kitchen!
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That's what happens when you put a bunch of prima donnas together in the same room...
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Mostly, it is not being able to locate the actual hots at the switches. This new non- contact tester beeps and lights on everything. When I switch to the normal contact tester I get readings even from the neutrals to the egcs. It is weird stuff that as an industrial electrician I did not encounter. The house has to be wired right, I suppose. It has been here for about 30 years.
What brand non contact are you using? Fluke works well for me in minimizing false positives. Still have to bust out the multimeter a lot though to be sure
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Mostly, it is not being able to locate the actual hots at the switches. This new non- contact tester beeps and lights on everything. When I switch to the normal contact tester I get readings even from the neutrals to the egcs. It is weird stuff that as an industrial electrician I did not encounter. The house has to be wired right, I suppose. It has been here for about 30 years.
Have you got a lot of boxes busted out trying to sort it all out? If so, maybe there is an open neutral somewhere and that's where your voltage neutral to ground is coming from.
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Mostly, it is not being able to locate the actual hots at the switches. This new non- contact tester beeps and lights on everything. When I switch to the normal contact tester I get readings even from the neutrals to the egcs. It is weird stuff that as an industrial electrician I did not encounter. The house has to be wired right, I suppose. It has been here for about 30 years.

Or, believe it or not, I've seen switched neutrals in older houses to control lights. Makes for a very interesting time with a tic tracer.
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With so much knowledge that is necessary to perform well in this trade it is kind of easy to misspeak and possibly give erroneous information and the next guy...wanting to espouse the he/she is MORE PROFESSIONAL...and knows more, jumps to throw them under the bus. It is a shame. I DO think that this forum is a good place to learn.
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Mostly, it is not being able to locate the actual hots at the switches. This new non- contact tester beeps and lights on everything. When I switch to the normal contact tester I get readings even from the neutrals to the egcs. It is weird stuff that as an industrial electrician I did not encounter. The house has to be wired right, I suppose. It has been here for about 30 years.
Induced voltage. The reason you probably haven't experienced it before is because you probably didn't work with NM cable etc. Do you have a Fluke tester? If you really want to get technical, get the Fluke Stray Voltage eliminator. Are your problems on switch loops without a neutral?
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Seems like most threads on here end up as an argument. I'm just wondering if there's people that know each other in the real world and have issues with each other, or if it's just on here. I only recently got back on here from a couple years ago, I don't remember it being quite as dramatic back then. I've learned tons on here, it's really awesome reading some of you guys posts on things I've never even heard of! I hate it when it goes south though and the point is lost before a solution is given. Reminds me of that old show LOST. just when it starts getting good, it gets all WTF. Maybe there should be a "fight thread" started so that people could just "take it outside" ?
This forum is like an electricians bar with all of the BS and drunk talk.
MH site is more like a classroom or Church for electricians.
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Wow! It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious!!
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