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Old 03-27-2017, 02:22 PM   #1
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I want to get an idea of what you guys are doing special for aging clients. People are staying in their homes longer and are modifying their homes to deal with diminishing eyesight, etc.

I'm thinking illuminated switches could be a good thing. Home automation could play into this but some are technology savvy and others are not.

Lighting up stairways is big so I do have a specific question. I have a client who has concerns about falls down some outdoor deck stairs. LED outline strips could be cool but would lose the fight with the snow shovel.

Falls with seniors are a legitimate concern. I had an old uncle who fell a few steps and two days later he was gone.
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Old 03-27-2017, 02:42 PM   #2
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I want to get an idea of what you guys are doing special for aging clients. People are staying in their homes longer and are modifying their homes to deal with diminishing eyesight, etc.

I'm thinking illuminated switches could be a good thing. Home automation could play into this but some are technology savvy and others are not.

Lighting up stairways is big so I do have a specific question. I have a client who has concerns about falls down some outdoor deck stairs. LED outline strips could be cool but would lose the fight with the snow shovel.

Falls with seniors are a legitimate concern. I had an old uncle who fell a few steps and two days later he was gone.
Receptacles at 24"
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Maybe one of those free standing lifts for the stairs.
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I second this, I think little things like this are great for seniors, not too far down the road for some of us.
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Placement of task lighting in appropriate work areas
Light in shower/tub area
Light in closets
Light switches by each entrance to halls and rooms
Bright lights in vital places (exits, bathroom)
Light switches and thermostats no higher than 48 inches from floor
Electrical outlets at least 18-24 inches off floor; may need to be closer than 12-feet apart
Clear access space of 30-inches by 48-inches in front of switches and controls
Rocker or touch light switches
Audible and visual strobe light system to indicate when the doorbell, telephone or smoke /CO2 detectors have been activated
Easy-to-see and read and pre-programmed thermostats
Flashing porch light or 911 switch
Home wired for security with call center for police, fire and EMS (as option)
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. LED outline strips could be cool but would lose the fight with the snow shovel.

Falls with seniors are a legitimate concern. I had an old uncle who fell a few steps and two days later he was gone.
Did I ever tell you about my modern snow shovel? Anyway put the LED strip light under the stair (the treads)... should have a nose no? Or open as for deck. Something like my stair...

Which reminds me I better get that thing finished. My knees are killing me and no handrails.

I think falls are the worst for us seniors.

I'll probably have to get you to come over and do the install after you have practiced a bit. My sig says I'm a pain... on myself and for sure anyone that works for me. Might not be worth the BS. I'm like Trump.
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aging clients?.....what about aging sparks ? methinks 'trade years' are like 'dog years'...~CS~
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I second this, I think little things like this are great for seniors, not too far down the road for some of us.
Had 1 customer with a bad back, told us to install all the receptacles @48".
Looked weird as crap, and the only job where no one complained about who had to install the devices lol
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I been doing that lately for aging electrician (me)
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aging clients?.....what about aging sparks ? methinks 'trade years' are like 'dog years'...~CS~
Your a chicken Steve, not a dog. Try to remember that, lest you become chicken broth.
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Did I ever tell you about my modern snow shovel? Anyway put the LED strip light under the stair (the treads)... should have a nose no? Or open as for deck. Something like my stair...

Which reminds me I better get that thing finished. My knees are killing me and no handrails.

I think falls are the worst for us seniors.

I'll probably have to get you to come over and do the install after you have practiced a bit. My sig says I'm a pain... on myself and for sure anyone that works for me. Might not be worth the BS. I'm like Trump.
Everytime I see that set of 'stairs' I feel like coming over and build you a new set.
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QUOTE - not too far down the road for some of us.- END QUOTE

speak for yourself !
I get younger every year
( at least that's what I tell myself )
so keep it under your hat.

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Everytime I see that set of 'stairs' I feel like coming over and build you a new set.
Bring your extension cord.
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Absolutely, 120v wormdrive is the only way to go for big 2x lumber..
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Receptacles, besides being high, put in more. Super simple thing that doesn't involve actually doing much. Put in your outlets with night lights in mind. These things



https://www.amazon.com/Maxxima-MLN-5.../dp/B0030CDEEY

are a $5 item that makes a house a lot easier to navigate. Being LED with a dawn-dusk they probably last forever and cost next to nothing to run.

People over 50 like printed media, and old eyes love floor lamps, which let you read without lighting up the whole room like a runway at the airport, but that's almost always covered by the existing receptacles.

I am a big believer in a landline for every household, preferably from the traditional telco, because they work better in emergencies and 911 works better on landlines. In most homes having one phone in the kitchen and one in the master bedroom is adequate but for the elderly being close to a phone when you fall can be a big deal. Those life alert type devices have a lot of merit and I know there are voice activated ones coming out but often low tech is better.

I am a big believer in interconnected smoke alarms too, but especially for a household where someone isn't going to hear a smoke detector in the basement from their bedroom, which is less likely with poor hearing. If it's to the point where strobes are necessary, so be it, but with a LOT of wireless interconnected smokes, you have to be about stone deaf not to hear them when they all go off together.

I guess a lot of this is stuff that's good for everyone just more important for an older household. Another one along those lines would be a generator. If you're still capable of shoveling snow and humping a portable generator from the shed to the house and running cords to get the furnace going, fine; but at some point if it's really going to be used, it has to be easier to use.
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I like the Pass and Seymour night light receptacles or night light GFCI. Standby generator doesn't hurt either. More light is better.
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splatz, around here there is no more traditional telco. Verizon ran fiber to every house and stripped the copper lines. People have a choice of VoIP from either FIOS or Comcast.
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Sounds like a dumb idea but what about exit signs? If it's smoky and a person is confused, it could be easier to find the door.

Or maybe it is a dumb idea...
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