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Old 05-29-2017, 10:44 PM   #1
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This is one of the reasons why I use Alumiconns or Polaris taps instead.
I do believe in this case it was user error and they're not rated for the size of wire they were used on.
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Old 05-29-2017, 10:49 PM   #2
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Is that #8 alum conductor ???
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Is that #8 alum conductor ???

yeah some idiot spliced #8 al to #10 cu

there were 2 splices in the panel and this is the only one that failed
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Daymm that is fruitcake for sure .,,

sound like someone have no sense of that at all..

I would never use those purple wirenuts at all.. I never like it too much at all
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I guess I should give up on my old ways of a wire nut with noalox in it if even the purple ones are failing.

Alumiconn rep actually told me the other day major insurance companies will write fire policies again for houses with aluminum wiring if you replace all of the joints with alumiconns. Anyone done anything like that to get a house eligible for coverage?
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Ugh. I don't use Polaris enough to memorize but...for that size, wouldn't that have been the better option?
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The Alumicons are just soooo expensive. I did an aluminum job not long ago. I replaced all the devices with CO/ALR and had to use Alumicons on GFCIs. Some existing splices I didn't touch had regular wirenuts, but I checked a few and they seem to be holding up well. If the conductors have a nice twist with each other and don't rely on the wirenut for continuity, I think they should be fine.

I made it perfectly clear in the proposal that I wouldn't take responsibility for any splices or taps that I didn't repair or didn't know existed. Of course only the judge will know how far that will cover
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It's outrageous to show a purple 65 with a #8 in it and then semi sort of imply that purple 65's are problematic.

The astronauts on the Challenger were pictured wearing orange jump suits and the ship blue up , that just shows how awful orange jump suits on astronauts are. (may have been blue jump suits but I digress.....)


Shame on you spec, this rates right up there with my tr gfi wet dream.
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I think there are too many documented cases of the purple wire nut failing.

Here is just one such report http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&u act=8&ved=0ahUKEwjotr6OhZjUAhVq7oMKHbR0Ah8QFggvMAI &url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kinginnovation.com%2Fpics%2F db%2Fdocs%2F253-ReducingFire.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGrwfOe5Iv1jZkfbgpHSrTVY 7DYpg

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I have seen a lot of tans and reds burnt up also. Should we quit using them?
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It may very well be, and don't really care. If there were many reports that alumicons were failing I would say the same thing. I tend to use the ACS brown #63 / #65 connectors vice the Alumicon simply for the price and in some cases box fill requirements.

Ultimately I try to convince the client to use AL rated devices so I don't have to use any of the stuff and deal with box fill issues.

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I've seen a few wire nuts burn up like that here and there. I'm also not a huge fan when just electrical tape is used.
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