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Old 09-29-2017, 03:38 PM   #41
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Old 09-29-2017, 03:47 PM   #42
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Actually it's neither, just stopped looking in the wrong places and ignoring friends advice.
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The square toolbag is fine for transporting tools and some service work, but most of the time you won't want to work out of it.

And, I haven't seen the combo nut driver. It's about freaking time. I always carried the individual nut driver tips/bits
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Ill look into what I've already spent and pick some drivers up.

Funny you say that about the solar tools..
Our teacher just told us about the new solar panels they just installed in the mock construction site and they provide the tools needed to use in class. They put up 6 huge free standing panels, and 10 smaller panels on the roof.
Did they teach you guys anything about the different methods of attaching to the racking system to the roof; Concrete shingles, Clay tiles, vs asphalt shingles

For me, this is my challenge, the electrical is easy compared to f... with the roof attachments, and the weight of the panels to get up two stories
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i think were going a bit over kill here telling this guy to get a wiggy and solar tools.

what you have will sure be more than enough for a pre employment class.

its good you are buying quality right from the get go. that stuff you bought should last you a long time.
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The square toolbag is fine for transporting tools and some service work, but most of the time you won't want to work out of it.

And, I haven't seen the combo nut driver. It's about freaking time. I always carried the individual nut driver tips/bits
The combo stinks, I've been given three different ones.

The 1/4"-5/16" 2-in-1 is okay:

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The square toolbag is fine for transporting tools and some service work, but most of the time you won't want to work out of it.

And, I haven't seen the combo nut driver. It's about freaking time. I always carried the individual nut driver tips/bits
Ive been noticing since im putting the tools in the bag for the first time that alot of the spaces are too deep and pliers and whatnot seem to get lost in them... Kind of a bummer. Can you recommend a decent tool bag?
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Did they teach you guys anything about the different methods of attaching to the racking system to the roof; Concrete shingles, Clay tiles, vs asphalt shingles

For me, this is my challenge, the electrical is easy compared to f... with the roof attachments, and the weight of the panels to get up two stories[/QUOTE]

We havent gotten that far yet.. She was just explaining a little about everything in the shop.


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i think were going a bit over kill here telling this guy to get a wiggy and solar tools.

what you have will sure be more than enough for a pre employment class.

its good you are buying quality right from the get go. that stuff you bought should last you a long time.
I feel that I've got a pretty good start on tools. Once I find a job I'll focus on the specific tools I'll need there.
I hate buying crappy tools. If I'm going to depend on them for my livelihood and safety, I'm willing to spend a little more for quality. The school has some sort of agreement with Ideal tools and they're pushing us to buy them with a "student discount". I purchased everything Klein and Milwaukee on Amazon for roughly the same price as was offered from Ideal. I've held Ideal tools and now using my Klein stuff, Klein blows them out of the water with comfort and the feeling of a quality tool in your hand.
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Cant go wrong with klein
Best tool belt/bag is the leather occidental belts....
Mech will scare you into thinkingvyou will be a hunchback by the time your 40, but i wear mine into the job site on my shoulder. I will actually wear it during roughing, especiallyvon a ladder. Most times its laying on the floor and i grab 1 or 2 tools i need.
A bit pricey, but worth it in the long run! I dont care what anyone says, the ticker and outlest tester you will be using alot right from the start!
I dunno wtf a wiggy is either, lol but seemscyou can do same tests from a fluke voltage reader. I may be wrong. But id spend money on the ticker, outlet tester, and fluke first

And why the hate for multi drivers? Granted i rately use my 11in1 but its always in my pouch. Its great for 1/4 and 5/16 hex heads on fans and what not you dont need to go down the ladder and get the impact and driver



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Cant go wrong with klein
Best tool belt/bag is the leather occidental belts....
Mech will scare you into thinkingvyou will be a hunchback by the time your 40, but i wear mine into the job site on my shoulder. I will actually wear it during roughing, especiallyvon a ladder. Most times its laying on the floor and i grab 1 or 2 tools i need.
A bit pricey, but worth it in the long run! I dont care what anyone says, the ticker and outlest tester you will be using alot right from the start!
I dunno wtf a wiggy is either, lol but seemscyou can do same tests from a fluke voltage reader. I may be wrong. But id spend money on the ticker, outlet tester, and fluke first

And why the hate for multi drivers? Granted i rately use my 11in1 but its always in my pouch. Its great for 1/4 and 5/16 hex heads on fans and what not you dont need to go down the ladder and get the impact and driver



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I did just buy a bside avd05. Is that a ticker?
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Cant go wrong with klein
Best tool belt/bag is the leather occidental belts....
Mech will scare you into thinkingvyou will be a hunchback by the time your 40, but i wear mine into the job site on my shoulder. I will actually wear it during roughing, especiallyvon a ladder. Most times its laying on the floor and i grab 1 or 2 tools i need.
A bit pricey, but worth it in the long run! I dont care what anyone says, the ticker and outlest tester you will be using alot right from the start!
I dunno wtf a wiggy is either, lol but seemscyou can do same tests from a fluke voltage reader. I may be wrong. But id spend money on the ticker, outlet tester, and fluke first

And why the hate for multi drivers? Granted i rately use my 11in1 but its always in my pouch. Its great for 1/4 and 5/16 hex heads on fans and what not you dont need to go down the ladder and get the impact and driver



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Let me address the multi-tools first, I didn't say multi-drivers, I love my 5, 10, and 11 in 1 screwdrivers.

It's the shaft thickness on the nutdrivers that suck, they are too thick to get onto the fasteners on many components. The 11 in 1 you can't get in square on many contactors but it works.

As for bags and orthopedic issues, ask any 'old guys' about their backs, hips, knees, and foot pains/injuries.

Everything should work fine before 50, it's after 50 you pay for youthful misgivings.

If not for a serious accident mine would still be in great shape.
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Defiantly some nut drivers and wrenches if your doing commercial/indusrial. At least 3/8 7/16 and 1/2. Probably good to have regardless.
Add 5/16" and you got the main nut drivers.
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Add 5/16" and you got the main nut drivers.
9/16" is good to have for working with strut and 3/8" rod if you do it often.

I carried a 10mm for German package equipment access panel bolts.

All depends on what you work on most.
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I. Can you recommend a decent tool bag?
I liked the way the tools fit in the leather pouches I had in the 70's.

The newer bags have a far better design with the handles, velcro and padded wide belt but, as you mentioned, the tools don't fit well and generally the small pouches are too shallow. The last 20 years of my career, I looked for a perfect set of bags and always came up short.
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i think were going a bit over kill here telling this guy to get a wiggy and solar tools.

what you have will sure be more than enough for a pre employment class.

its good you are buying quality right from the get go. that stuff you bought should last you a long time.
I was being jocular.
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I did just buy a bside avd05. Is that a ticker?
Yes, ticker, NCVT or NCVD or etc. I wouldn't buy a cheap one, but unfortunately even some name brands are pretty crappy. The Klein is crap. I like the Santronics. Good quality and reliability, just works, no buttons etc.

http://www.santronicsinc.com/
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I dunno wtf a wiggy is either, lol but seemscyou can do same tests from a fluke voltage reader. I may be wrong. But id spend money on the ticker, outlet tester, and fluke first
I am not sure which is the first to buy, and you'll wind up with both the meter and the solenoid tester. In school, I guess the meter will be the better thing to have since I imagine you'll be learning to use a meter where there's not much to learning to use a solenoid tester.

The solenoid tester just tests voltage and some test continuity as well, which is IMO a big help, where a meter will have additional functions. It is low Z (impedance) so it's not prone to show voltage where there's not, but there are low Z meters as well. I personally won't bother with a meter that's not low Z. You don't get exact measurements with the solenoid tester and there aren't other functions.

There's nothing to turn on or set on the solenoid tester. For quick tests all day to see if things are live, the solenoid is better IMO because it is quicker, more durable, more portable, and most important it's more reliable / less error prone.
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I spent 35 years in this trade and can say honestly you have more tools now, than I ever did.
Is your school in the tool business?
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You have a decent set you want another pair of channel locks. A carpenter's pencil, and a Sharpe. And I prefer Klien to ideal too. Also, a small spring punch is nice if you are setting panels, but not necessary. Get you a Klein demolition screwdriver for beating and prying.
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