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Old 04-02-2019, 11:59 AM   #1
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I haven't posted in several months. Since January I have been working as an assistant project manager for a large electrical contractor in my area. There are about 10 assistant PMs here. I journey out in 2 months (I was brought in during the winter and stayed in the office). My question is: For electricians that have transitioned from the field, what career options are available? I much rather prefer being in the office now that I've experienced it. My goal is to still get my journeyman and masters license. I also considered finishing my bachelors of electrical engineering degree. If I become a project manager do I basically plateau in the electrical contracting industry? I was still considering sales also. I think project managers around here usually make about 80-90k which is decent but I think you're stuck at that salary for the rest of your career. I'm making 35/hr, I kept my union package while in the office.
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Old 04-02-2019, 12:51 PM   #2
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90 to sit in an office isn't bad.
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PM's can do quite well with experience the options are open to you
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The fate of most PMs is to stay in sales -- as their primary role is salesmanship -- like getting the GC to pay for extras.

If good, they're never laid off.
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Yeah, but they won't pay me j-man scale in the office. I'll have to take a salary that's lower than union scale.
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Yeah, but they won't pay me j-man scale in the office. I'll have to take a salary that's lower than union scale.
So you would have to shelf your ticket? Not get the locals benefit package?

Do they have another retirement plan and medical benefits for salary employees?

It sounds odd. Our PMs make foremen’s rate and General foremen's rate. I understand you are just starting out, but I would want to keep the benefits. I don’t know of any way they would be able to keep paying into the benefits, and pay less than rate.
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Yeah, but they won't pay me j-man scale in the office. I'll have to take a salary that's lower than union scale.
So you would have to shelf your ticket? Not get the locals benefit package?

Do they have another retirement plan and medical benefits for salary employees?

It sounds odd. Our PMs make foremen’s rate and General foremen's rate. I understand you are just starting out, but I would want to keep the benefits. I don’t know of any way they would be able to keep paying into the benefits, and pay less than rate.
So in our local, you shelf your ticket. But if you work in the office you can keep your benefits and pension plan. Now, I would be an assistant PM. Essentially in training. It’s true the regular PMs do make foreman and general foreman pay and/or eligible for bonuses but I’m not a PM yet.
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senior PM, VP, Pres, whatever. there's no limit unless you limit it yourself. you will need, at some point, to decide if you enjoy sitting at a computer screen, listen to bitches whine about BS at the office, sit around getting fat, eating big lunches, banging the secretaries (if they still do that), etc., versus cutting your fingers off, getting muddy, going home dead tired, working with a bunch of farting bull$hitting aholes all day. its a fork in the road coming up.
(I'd still get your jman, and masters if they have that up there, if possible).

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Since you only recently figured out that you prefer working in an office, I'd suggest thinking about what exactly you want to spend 1/3 of your life doing there and not worry so much about the money. You're already talking about an income level where the benefits of more pay in the future start to diminish compared to other aspects of the job.
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