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Old 02-03-2019, 11:45 AM   #1
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When wiring a 4-32 or 2-32 ballast does it matter if you put all same colored wires under the same wire nut as opposed to individually? I have done it both ways and they both work
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Old 02-03-2019, 12:29 PM   #2
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What does the wiring diagram on the ballast show? That's how you wire it.
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When wiring a 4-32 or 2-32 ballast does it matter if you put all same colored wires under the same wire nut as opposed to individually? I have done it both ways and they both work
Oui ou Non .,, ( Yes or No )

All it depending on the ballast connection diagram that you need to follow it to make sure it is working properly.

that is the only way it can save your butt if you follow the diagram posted on the ballast so if something go wrong you will know why quick.
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This is it. Why does it work when putting all reds together, all blues, all yellows? What are the damaging effects? Not lasting as long?
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I do those type like how it shows, - 6 wire nuts plus the three for line power. Charge em $35 per wire nut , should work out ok.
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I do those type like how it shows, - 6 wire nuts plus the three for line power. Charge em $35 per wire nut , should work out ok.
(2) 5-port Lever Nuts and (4) LED replacement tubes.
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I do those type like how it shows, - 6 wire nuts plus the three for line power. Charge em $35 per wire nut , should work out ok.
I have seen it done 1 quick disconnect, 3 wire nuts, 1 for each color. What would be the issues if any?

I was doing a retro fit at a school and many were done like this, perhaps to save time/go faster.
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(2) 5-port Lever Nuts and (4) LED replacement tubes.

Who cares, just as long as the bill runs up over $200 for a ten minute change out.
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We are all shooting ourselves in the foot with the eagerness to put in LED tubes whether the customer requests them or not. If they don't specifically ask me to replace the fluorescent with LED, then I don't. I have been back to the same light fixtures two or three times, I recognize the house, and my handwriting in sharpie next to the ballast with the date of install. Re-occuring revenue.
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Why would you not wire 1 yellow to the blues (all wiires on 2 lamps to the blue with 1 yellow to all wires on the opposite end of the same 2 lamps)?
Same to the red. The manufacturer knows their own product better than anyone.
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I actually have had to slow myself down a tad on a couple of ballast and lamp change outs. If you are out the door in under 5 minutes , they start questioning your billings. Even if it is an upfront flatrate. Don't do that. Always on site for at least ten minutes, check the panel labels or something, but be there for minimum ten minutes.
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We are all shooting ourselves in the foot with the eagerness to put in LED tubes whether the customer requests them or not. If they don't specifically ask me to replace the fluorescent with LED, then I don't. I have been back to the same light fixtures two or three times, I recognize the house, and my handwriting in sharpie next to the ballast with the date of install. Re-occuring revenue.
I would rather make the extra money now by selling them something of value than hope to make money in the future by changing bulbs and ballasts.

Retrofitting their lights with LED tubes can easily upsell to a much higher price then you could charge for changing bulbs and ballasts.
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I would rather make the extra money now by selling them something of value than hope to make money in the future by changing bulbs and ballasts.

Retrofitting their lights with LED tubes can easily upsell to a much higher price then you could charge for changing bulbs and ballasts.
I beg to differ. Most resi ones I have changed as of late, the owner hands me the lamps he bought from Lowe's. Even the grandma's and aunties are hip to them $8 Lowe's replacement LED tubes.
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I beg to differ. Most resi ones I have changed as of late, the owner hands me the lamps he bought from Lowe's. Even the grandma's and aunties are hip to them $8 Lowe's replacement LED tubes.
Not a single one of my customers have been. And I would’ve told them that I don’t warrantee the cheap ones from Home Depot so I might have to be back in a few years to replace it. That always changes their tunes. Plus, they’re paying for the labor of retrofitting their light fixture. If they are that hip that they don’t want to pay more than they would pay for a ballast or a bulb replacement, it’s time to move onto the next customer.
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Unless you are told to, follow the prints. In this situation it worked, but what happens next time with a different manufacture? In this case the blues, reds and yellow are probably tied together in side the ballast. But if they are not and you did allot this way and they were separate windings you just overload them all, and when they burn out who is at fault.


Each red and each blue may be a separate winding, designed to carry it's own load.


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We are all shooting ourselves in the foot with the eagerness to put in LED tubes whether the customer requests them or not. If they don't specifically ask me to replace the fluorescent with LED, then I don't. I have been back to the same light fixtures two or three times, I recognize the house, and my handwriting in sharpie next to the ballast with the date of install. Re-occuring revenue.


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