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Old 12-14-2013, 01:35 AM   #21
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Old 12-14-2013, 01:38 AM   #22
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3 way mogal based bulbs went out 20 years ago.
I have a lot hidden in my garage just waiting for the value to go up.
And four cases of Freon.

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Old 12-14-2013, 01:41 AM   #23
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Get real, where do you suppose home owners and even professionals are taking all these old mercury filled thermostats when they get replaced with new programmable models?

Garbage can.
R.E. Micheals here has a recycle drop off box for old t'stats.
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Any mercury containing device is safe as long as its not broken. Mercury vapor lamps don't break easily nor do the ends crack at the end of life from heating cathodes trying to light a dead tube. Ok, I agree old school thermometers end up in the garbage, but still, why challenge that? A single CFL is only a drop size (5mg), but factor in a house with 30 CFLs that need to be changed every 5 years times millions of homes the number starts to add up. Plus when a used CFL breaks you don't have just a globe of mercury like with a thermometer or relay, the mercury saturated phosphor goes air born, which ends up in peoples lungs, the easiest absorber of mercury. GI tract is actually the worst, followed by skin which is also very poor when dealing with elemental merc. The vapors or air born particles is what harms.
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I agree it's silly that we allow some corporations to make big profits on the back of the environment. We know a good portion of the mercury in those products will wind up in places we don't want it.. and we know the harm it can and will likely cause.

But we keep letting the government let big business kill us slowly for dollah billz yo.
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Incandescents make sense in cold climates.
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I was very, very against these regulations until I discovered the halogen bulbs that will still be carried. 72 watts instead of 100, 42 watts instead of 60, twice the life of the best incandescent bulb, and the same light and dimmability. Other than that they cost a little more, I dont see a downside. But then again, buying cheap incandescents (as opposed to name brand) was usually a waste of money anyways.
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Do they make a CFL for cold temperature starting...or will you be forced to LED for outside lights?
I had a customer use LED bulbs outside and she replaced them with CFL's because she thought they worked better (??).
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So what do we use for temporary lighting now, a CFL? One accidental knock and it disintegrates. Not only that, THEN THERE'S MERCURY ALL OVER THE FLOOR. GASP!!!

No sense trying to save CFL's and take them from job to job. In no time you will have a box full of CFL dust.

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3 way mogal based bulbs went out 20 years ago.
I have a lot hidden in my garage just waiting for the value to go up.
I just ordered 12 this week.Supply house still has them. Not a big demand. 100/200/300 watt.
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I blame George Bush.
It was Clinton.
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From what I read in that article, it was GW in 2007.
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I was very, very against these regulations until I discovered the halogen bulbs that will still be carried. 72 watts instead of 100, 42 watts instead of 60, twice the life of the best incandescent bulb, and the same light and dimmability. Other than that they cost a little more, I dont see a downside. But then again, buying cheap incandescents (as opposed to name brand) was usually a waste of money anyways.

Which is the brand that lasts twice as long?






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So what do we use for temporary lighting now, a CFL? One accidental knock and it disintegrates. Not only that, THEN THERE'S MERCURY ALL OVER THE FLOOR. GASP!!!

No sense trying to save CFL's and take them from job to job. In no time you will have a box full of CFL dust.

They still have the ruff service stuff.
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It was Clinton.
Whether it was Bush or Clinton is irrelevant since they were both liberals.
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I ain't even kidding when I said I bought cases of 100 watt incandescents last year
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I ain't even kidding when I said I bought cases of 100 watt incandescents last year
Sounds like a good retirement package. Save them for 20 years and then sell them to the purists for $100 each, or whatever $100 today is worth in 20 years.
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I agree it's silly that we allow some corporations to make big profits on the back of the environment. We know a good portion of the mercury in those products will wind up in places we don't want it.. and we know the harm it can and will likely cause.

But we keep letting the government let big business kill us slowly for dollah billz yo.
This is a reta*ded statement, which is common from you.

EVERY company, big and small, puts out some type of pollution or "dangerous side effect", which liberals like you could spin into some horrible story.

Even your own EC company is "making big profits on the back of the environment" Things you do cause harm, but it's ok to kill others for dollah billz yo.
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This is a reta*ded statement, which is common from you.

EVERY company, big and small, puts out some type of pollution or "dangerous side effect", which liberals like you could spin into some horrible story.

Even your own EC company is "making big profits on the back of the environment" Things you do cause harm, but it's ok to kill others for dollah billz yo.
Reminds me of how the surfer dudes always thought they were so environmentally geared. All of em saving the ocean all the time. Tards. Then the stories of how much damage to the environment making surfboards came out..........
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Reminds me of how the surfer dudes always thought they were so environmentally geared. All of em saving the ocean all the time. Tards. Then the stories of how much damage to the environment making surfboards came out..........
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EVERY company, big and small, puts out some type of pollution or "dangerous side effect", which liberals like you could spin into some horrible story.
Yes "some type" of pollution, therefore any type should be allowed? Makes sense in Jersey. Black and white, either all pollution and toxicity allowed or none.

We know how dangerous mercury is... But let's just sprinkle some more in the kids playground... Capitalism! Let more into the oceans... Because the green hippies are polluting by driving bio-diesel vans to the protest site.
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