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Old 07-12-2017, 11:01 AM   #1
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since I moved to Florida, lightning has become a reality. I even have my good TV on a miniUPS. My friends are paying guys to install whole house surges. All I ever installed up in MD was TVSSs in panels, even for the Navy joints we worked on.

Any recommendations on decent whole house protection, or are in panel TVSSs just as good ?

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Hax likes the eaton one. I normally just use the breaker type.
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The one I like best to install is the one they pay me in cash for.
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Florida is so extreme: belt and suspenders.

Use a layered defense.
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I like Ditek, which is a Florida company.

But after seeing the pictures of these things cooking when they do their job, I am looking to switch to something in a METAL case.

The breaker type might have an edge for effective surge protection, they say by keeping the leads short and the impedance in the wire low they work better. With the breaker type there's no leads and they don't go through a breaker, the're right on the bus for the lowest possible impedance to the MOVs. But, if it cooks, you might wind up ruining the panel.
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That looks like a good price but this is something I would only buy on Amazon if it's direct from Amazon or through a very well known company selling on the marketplace. I don't know who JD is.
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Anything with a picture of Mike Holmes on the box should work great.
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OP needs to check the joules on his mini UPS, because, it may provide next to no surge suppression.
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We have installed several surgepure devices, big and small. have yet to be called for a failure in almost 10 years. Not cheap but they seem to work...
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Very true.

If you get a line interactive UPS they usually have surge protection built in but even some of the fairly pricey APCs have less surge protection than a $10 surge strip.

If you get a true double conversion / online UPS, the UPS itself usually provides good power quality / surge protection. But there aren't any cheap ones that I know of.
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Wow, we are two peas in a sweaty pod like you once said. I was literally going to say the same thing in reply to Jackwad's post.
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I'd second the layered thing. Some sort of in panel device and another at the receptacle or a surge strip depending on how many pieces of gear I was looking to protect.
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since I moved to Florida, lightning has become a reality. I even have my good TV on a miniUPS. My friends are paying guys to install whole house surges. All I ever installed up in MD was TVSSs in panels, even for the Navy joints we worked on.

Any recommendations on decent whole house protection, or are in panel TVSSs just as good ?

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Eaton makes the best whole house surge suppressors.
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