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Old 07-12-2017, 11:36 PM   #21
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since I moved to Florida, lightning has become a reality. I even have my good TV on a miniUPS. My friends are paying guys to install whole house surges. All I ever installed up in MD was TVSSs in panels, even for the Navy joints we worked on.

Any recommendations on decent whole house protection, or are in panel TVSSs just as good ?

thanks in advance for any responses
Just FYI, "TVSS" is out, the official new term (as of about 5 years ago) is "SPD"; Surge Protective Device. The term TVSS was never defined and a lot of schlocky people (i.e. China) used it willy-nilly for absolute worthless junk, but couldn't be stopped because it had no official definition. So now the term SPD has an official definition and specification criteria based on what level of protection you are after, supported by ANSI/IEEE and UL under UL1449. If you call something and "SPD" it must meet one of those standards, including repeatability and indication of it no longer working. A TVSS can be a piece of something you got at Radio Shack last night and it popped an hour later, but nobody knows.
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Old 07-13-2017, 08:24 AM   #22
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The reality of any "SPD" (thank you JRaef) comes down to the warranties that apply after the incident goes through the insurance meat grinder.

In a nutshell, any residential claim is subject to a deductible , which the better manufacturers address via their warranties.....

Ergo, we've settled on & stock > Sycom

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The reality of any "SPD" (thank you JRaef) comes down to the warranties that apply after the incident goes through the insurance meat grinder.

In a nutshell, any residential claim is subject to a deductible , which the better manufacturers address via their warranties.....

Ergo, we've settled on & stock > Sycom

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Holy smokes! Steve posted on an electrical topic!

I had to read this three times. I was certain you would bash a Christian, praise a Muslim, or blow a goat somewhere in there. But I can't find it.
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Holy smokes! Steve posted on an electrical topic!

I had to read this three times. I was certain you would bash a Christian, praise a Muslim, or blow a goat somewhere in there. But I can't find it.
"insurance meat grinder", you know there was a cabal and or oligarch on the tip of his tongue!
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Glad to oblige this fine forum 277

But that i've so little time seems problematic, perhaps if i didn't have to run a biz and a farm i'd post more

Maybe even keep up to those retired has been's on disability here

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Glad to oblige this fine forum 277

But that i've so little time seems problematic, perhaps if i didn't have to run a biz and a farm i'd post more

Maybe even keep up to those retired has been's on disability here

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Florida is the Lightning Capitol of the U.S for the number of strikes, but Pennsylvania has the highest rate of damage from Lightning per capita in the U.S.
Why?, not sure, maybe the iron content in the ground?

I've never had a Sycom surge arrestor fail. For me, the Seimens breaker type have had the largest failure rate.
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I install eaton CHSP2ULTRA. So far so good..
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I would use a surge protector that mounts outside of the panel in its own box. It ain't pretty when they fail or consume themselves in protecting the load side.
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