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Old 08-02-2018, 06:31 AM   #1
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Just wanted to know, what are some tricks you guys do when creating box offsets? Do any of you guys use measurements?
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Old 08-02-2018, 07:40 AM   #2
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Box offsets are for BEAUTY.

Above the lid, hell no, even if surface mounted runs.

Down low, use a 1810 or 1811 bender.

That way you can use apprentice labor.

Don't over-think it.

Yeah, I can whip out box-offsets in seconds. But a foreman// owner has to delegate, has to appreciate that his troops will never come up to his skill level, something much to be regretted.
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Old 08-02-2018, 07:43 AM   #3
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Never measure a box offset.
Just keep doing them, eventually you'll get it.
I have a box offset maker for some jobs of exposed work in finished areas.
Not that the guys can't bend one.
Just that it's so much faster & always spot than watching an electrician adjust it back an forth.
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About 99% of the time your position doesn't have to be dead on exact and it doesn't matter if you roll a box offset a little bit. In fact I think it looks kind of streamlined or like italics. So make them a little big, roll them a bit, and pretend you do them that way on purpose. No customer would ever notice this anyway. Hack is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 08-02-2018, 08:28 AM   #5
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IF for whatever reason your box offsets do need to be right on the money, and like me you have more OCD than eyeballing ability, mark your box offset measurement on your folding rule with a wrap of masking tape. You can make more than one mark if you need to, just depends on what you're working on that day.

Making a story pole of your folding rule is a really big time saver. For example often you'll have to saddle over the same size obstacle all day. Lay it out once, tape the folding rule for those marks, and you have a template for that obstacle all day.
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Never measured one. Used to bend them like crazy 28 years ago.

Then last week...

Opportunity knocked. Rather than change a light bulb... a new boiler had to be connected. I just happened to have a 5 foot piece of 1/2 EMT. Actually two as many months ago I bought a stick and cut it in half to fit in my girl 1/2 truck. Long gone is the E350 Extended Van Service Truck.

Just like riding a bike. After some thinking and finishing my coffee I stood the rusty 1/2 bender on its piece of 3/4 rigid handle, did my best guess on bend #1, flipped it and bend #2. Maybe some luck involved but I did no corrections.

To simplify things I only did the offset into the switch box. The J box is attached to a beat to death panel and an offset there would have looked horrible. Plumbers had to take apart the boiler to get it in the room and plumbers are pretty rough when putting things back together.

So practice makes perfect. Or as others say they make offset benders. My gawd someone here uses offset connectors.
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I would only measure if I had to line them up in a row. Free hand all the others.


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After you bend 400-500 you will have identical beautiful box offsets. No measuring required.
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Squeak - roll - squeak,,,,, next
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I was going through some stuff in my shop the other day and found this.
Remind you guys of anyone?
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I was going through some stuff in my shop the other day and found this.
Remind you guys of anyone?
HA A certain wago-may-care scoundrelectrician...

or a carpenter.
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I would only measure if I had to line them up in a row. Free hand all the others.


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100% agree with the above.
If there are several side-by-side Nd they all match then it is a thing of beauty.
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Am I the only one here that ever used a Greenlee offset bender?
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Am I the only one here that ever used a Greenlee offset bender?
I love mine, only have 1/2"
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I love mine, only have 1/2"
Always had 1/2" and 3/4" on the van, can't beat the speed.
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Always had 1/2" and 3/4" on the van, can't beat the speed.
We bought an 1/2 and 3/4 for the last big conduit job we did, and now I just keep them in the van. I'll still hand bend box offsets if I'm on doing a couple sticks or whatever, but I do like having all my box offsets the same.
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Always had 1/2" and 3/4" on the van, can't beat the speed.
Or the consistency. Looks great when you have a bunch coming out of a box or panel.
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Am I the only one here that ever used a Greenlee offset bender?

They work great for EMT however I donít think they work for rigid conduit.

Thatís can be a different ballgame.
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I do have both a 1/2 & 3/4 box offset bender but for doing 1 or 2 I will bend them by hand.
I can bend them by feel I guess is the best way to describe it . I will bend the first bend then roll the pipe 180 degrees and pull the pipe back untill it ts flush with the front of the hook on the bender.Then I will shuve it back through the bender and you can feel the conduit dip as it goes under the hook. Once you feel the dip check your conduit for alignment and bend the second bend.
not really that difficult No layout eather

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They work great for EMT however I don’t think they work for rigid conduit.

That’s can be a different ballgame.
You are absolutely correct.
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