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Old 02-22-2015, 10:54 AM   #61
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some (maybe all) of these were mentioned (?)

cat 6 to primary network points
whole house vac
security cam rough in or pipe (wire for ptz if you plan on it)
irrigation control rough in to inside location (I don't like going outside to reprogram)
pool/in ground hot tub control rough to inside (I like dual control on inside)
dual rg6 + ethernet (cat5) at least to tv locations
floor heat in baths and kitchen
at least rough for genset
spare pipes for attic
lightning protection (?)
security + FA (I like having house monitored for fire + burglar, so at least the fire dept gets called if I'm not home)
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Old 02-22-2015, 11:36 AM   #62
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Old 02-22-2015, 12:00 PM   #63
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But didn't you lose the open attic space by using the trusses?
Yes and no. I spent a little less on trusses not designed for storage loads, but left it open to the peak.
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Old 02-22-2015, 06:57 PM   #64
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I will general it myself I was planning on paying myself about half of the standard gc rate to make up for time I'll lose doing electrical work.

100a sub in the garage for sure.

I was thinking of running the pex in floor lines depending on costs just for possible future use.

What part of Wisconsin are you based out of? I'm near the capital.

I don't really shop menards, logistics and free deliveries from my supply houses make it worth it to shop them. I try to spend wisely but never cheaply.
Northwest Wisconsin. You've probably got about 10 degrees on us.
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Don't you have the put the 2" pink insulation board down, then pex, then pour floor?
That's the way it's done around here. Screed the sand, install the pink insulation, staple the pex to the insulation, pour. I don't thing they generally put any rebar in a house floor. I think sometimes they'll put plastic down before the foam. Some inspectors require taping the seams on the foam. I'd definitely put the tubing in for future use.
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Indoor wood boiler Wendon, about 1/3 the cords of the outdoor ones.............

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I've never burned wood since I got married. My brother sells firewood and all 3 of my brothers have burned wood but I'd rather work a few extra hours and burn fossil fuel. Call me lazy. They still let you put those wood stoves inside the house?
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I've never burned wood since I got married. My brother sells firewood and all 3 of my brothers have burned wood but I'd rather work a few extra hours and burn fossil fuel. Call me lazy. They still let you put those wood stoves inside the house?
I feel the same way. A carpenter on a job showed up with a truck full of split firewood. He heats his house with it. He saves a couple thousand dollars every winter. He spent the time to cut, transport and stack the wood. Then he spends time every day stacking and hauling around wood and stoking the stove or boiler or whatever he has. I figure 30 min per day is conservative. 7 days a week = 3.5 hrs per week x16 weeks = 56 hours. He is saving $35 per hour he spends dealing with the wood. To me, that time is better spent doing service calls at $100+ per hour.
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I feel the same way. A carpenter on a job showed up with a truck full of split firewood. He heats his house with it. He saves a couple thousand dollars every winter. He spent the time to cut, transport and stack the wood. Then he spends time every day stacking and hauling around wood and stoking the stove or boiler or whatever he has. I figure 30 min per day is conservative. 7 days a week = 3.5 hrs per week x16 weeks = 56 hours. He is saving $35 per hour he spends dealing with the wood. To me, that time is better spent doing service calls at $100+ per hour.
The EPA is tightening things down with wood stoves. I believe, at least around here, all new outdoor woodstoves have to meet a certain emission criteria to be legal. You'll only be able to burn good, dry firewood and the cost of the stove is high. I like having my programmable thermostat turn the heat up before I get up, or I can use the Honeywell app and turn it up before I get home!
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Did he have all that extra work coming in? If so, and he was putting it off in order to do the firewood, then I would agree with you.

But if he was doing all the work he had come in and doing the firewood in addition to that, then it's gravy for him. Believe it or not, some people like to go home and do work instead of sitting in front of the TV. I'm definitely not one of those people
This is also assuming that you own a section of wooded property. Otherwise you'll pay a good price for a load of logs or even more for a load
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If I ever build a house, I plan to wire it Shockdoc style with 3 coils of 14/2, and one coil each of 12/2 and 14/3, with no AFCI's.
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if i ever build a house, i plan to wire it shockdoc styleŽ with 3 coils of 14/2, and one coil each of 12/2 and 14/3, with no afci's.

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Did he have all that extra work coming in? If so, and he was putting it off in order to do the firewood, then I would agree with you. But if he was doing all the work he had come in and doing the firewood in addition to that, then it's gravy for him. Believe it or not, some people like to go home and do work instead of sitting in front of the TV. I'm definitely not one of those people
I've got a wife and 2 kids at home. If I am. Ot out working for some $$$ I'm with them. That time is worth more than $35 per hour to me.
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If I ever build a house, I plan to wire it Shockdoc style with 3 coils of 14/2, and one coil each of 12/2 and 14/3, with no AFCI's.
Don't forget continuous loops through every box. I still would like to see the process for that.
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I've got a wife and 2 kids at home. If I am. Ot out working for some $$$ I'm with them. That time is worth more than $35 per hour to me.
Are you not at home with your wife and kids if you are cutting, splitting and stacking firewood? I used to go outside and hang out with my Dad when he used to do that. He even let me play with the splitting maul.
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I've never burned wood since I got married. My brother sells firewood and all 3 of my brothers have burned wood but I'd rather work a few extra hours and burn fossil fuel. Call me lazy. They still let you put those wood stoves inside the house?
It's a chore Wendon, and i can't argue it's hazards as well....

But it's such an inbred thing when you've done it your entire life yanno...


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That's you. A lot of other men take on hobbies just to get away from their wife and kids. Chopping wood to save money and get some peace and quiet is perfect!
A good stress reliever no doubt.
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Are you not at home with your wife and kids if you are cutting, splitting and stacking firewood? I used to go outside and hang out with my Dad when he used to do that. He even let me play with the splitting maul.

Unfortunately, 15 yr old girls don't like splitting firewood in the cold. Whatever time I get to spend with her, I want to make sure it is doing something she enjoys. Don't get me wrong, I have a wood burning fireplace. I acquire enough wood every summer to last us through the winter with the occasional fire here and there. Usually when we have company. I just would not enjoy turning it into a daily chore.

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It's a chore Wendon, and i can't argue it's hazards as well....

But it's such an inbred thing when you've done it your entire life yanno...


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I know what you mean chicken. I've got lots of friends that burn wood. It definitely is a hypocritical thing to do if you believe in Climate Change though, unless you're willing to install a stack scrubber etc. I grew up in a cold farm house. We would burn huge amounts of wood every winter to try to keep a warm spot in the house. I remember hauling in arm loads, and sled loads of wood into the wood box. Cut and split too much firewood. We also sold firewood for some pocket change. Totally got the wood burning thing out of my system! One thing I notice about the folks that burn wood is that, when I go to work in their houses etc., it's unbearably hot!!!!
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Are you not at home with your wife and kids if you are cutting, splitting and stacking firewood? I used to go outside and hang out with my Dad when he used to do that. He even let me play with the splitting maul.
Wow! Lucky me, I had a BB gun and a bike.
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