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Old 09-30-2012, 11:40 AM   #41
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No problem with the FIOS installers at my place. Actually mounted a back board to mount their equipment on, stapled the crap out of everything, and took the old equipment out!
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:56 AM   #42
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I'll jump in because I used to be a CATV installer/then trainer, but this was back when it was 13 channels and an HBO switch. Our installs had to be diagonal runs and you couldn't cross a corner of the house. Our installs were constantly being checked and if they didn't like it, you had to go back. Back then everything was a new install and you had to run a line from the pole on every job. Oh, BTW there were no battery drills back then, it was all done with bit and brace. We got $7 an install. Now the guys get $8 but rarely have to run a line in, but can get hung up programming the box. I doubt that many of us would work that cheap so they hire foreigners that are willing to work for nothing and rarely get any training other than how to turn it on.

My next door neighbor had a line come down and had to be reattached at the pole. This was nothing for the line across the street on the ground and pull when there's no cars guy. Not today..SIX freaking trucks and a police officer..I couldn't believe what I was seeing!!!

Bottom line ...back then there wasn't much to sell, so you had to take care of the they got you by the B**s and you really can't be without that cable, so they could care less what it looks like as long as it works.
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Old 09-30-2012, 12:03 PM   #43
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fios came in to do a free set up. installer was absolutely awesome. had to side my house and called them when I was done. they sent outa newb who had it running down a foot off level from top to bottom an then unsnapped my siding and fished it into the hole with the siding bowing out. had to call them back to fix it.
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Being a low voltage electrician, i deal with these guys on a daily basis.

Here in chicago, we have a some very well skilled att/bell south guys that are still around. they are all ibew, and take pride in their work. same with the comcast guys, but there are some others that can **** up plugging in an electrical cord.

Some of these guys just love to take out their drills and make holes where ever possible.
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Union, non-union, merit shop or piece workers all are capable of quality or hack work, it all depends on how you were taught and your personal ethics.
Yeah, that was why I was asking. One of the big 'complaints' I hear is that union workers do crappy work and are 'protected', so I was curious to see everyone universally decry a segment of our craft and why.
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