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Old 12-20-2018, 12:25 PM   #21
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I'm not buying people set their homes on fire to collect insurance. Never gonna happen, because insurance never covers the loss.

Greenery? Who the hell are you kidding? What greenery? It's nothing but dried brush out there, hasn't rained for years. Unless you live here you cant imagine.

Because you have never experienced a firestorm doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Are you saying somebody set a tree on fire to prove what? Or went along and set the guardrail posts on fire?

Wind born embers are the problem. You just can't put a fire in the Santa Ana winds and call it a day, it doesn't work that way. It's out of control in a heartbeat. I've lived through several fires over the years and it hasn't got me yet.

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Old 12-23-2018, 05:55 PM   #22
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Why are there no basements? Earthquakes?

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I live close to Paradise & a lot of people I know lost their homes, power was restored last Sunday up there so the lucky ones are moving back, but natural gas has not been restored yet.

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I just spent this last week in pair-o-dice and it is wild . Melted engine blocks running down the street and yes green trees o plenty . I stood where it started and stood where it stopped . What made it bad well wind . With little wind the fire goes up and down the canyons giving fire crews a place to fight . With the high wind it jumped from mountain top to mountain top thats how it moved so fast .

As for the trees . Green trees 100 or so feet tall takes an incredible amount of heat to burn them . You see trees are full of water and you have to get the water out to burn them . With high winds the heat keeps moving and is not sustained in one spot for long times so no kiln effect . Nature uses fire to regen the forrest . Trees of this size survive these fires due to natures design .

Why did the houses burn and not the trees . Well houses are full of combustible material . Gutters are full of leaves , cars are full of gas , propane tanks o plenty , Oils in the garage , sheets , rags , carpet ETC are all dry and combustible . Now when all of that goes the heat is sustained and down burns the house and not the trees . Fire much like electricity can jump . High winds will make fire jump over prime fuel leaving it alone and lighting up the car .

Also in this case the houses are packed in and do not have manicured laws and landscapes . The ground is covered in leaves and pine needles . Gutters in the hills is a no no because they fill and the embers land in them and boom goes the dynomite .

As far as the choo choo goes it is not going anywhere near where these fires have started .

And in closing PG&E and SO CAL EDISON are solely to blame for these disasters . It was just the perfect storm so to speak . Spark , dry mismanaged forrest , high winds and add some mountain folk packed in with two lane mountain roads and up it all goes . Will we learn from this ? I wish we would but I do not think we will . Living in the woods is hard . Most want to live in the fresh air and trees but do not know how to survive . Most think it is like the city and it is not . You must defend you're self from fire , flood etc but most have not been taught how to do so . YO
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