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Old 02-18-2019, 09:19 AM   #21
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I'd stick with quality HDMI cables under 100' any day, longer distances that's a more complicated problem.

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Old 02-18-2019, 10:06 AM   #22
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There are only 4 versions of HDMI cables, other that that they are generally the same and most of the sales info is hype. With or without Ethernet, normal or high speed. If the display board is touch screen for feedback, you need the version with Ethernet, if it’s just a display you don’t. Normal speed is good for 1080i resolution, high speed is 1080p. Most people cannot tell the difference but if you are watching high def (4K or more) sports or doing serious gaming, 1080p is smoother, little to no pixelation. All cables must be marked as to those 4 options and each option increases the price.

So for something like a non-interactive menu board, a cheap cable is as good as an expensive one. If they want touch screen feedback, use cheap with Ethernet. If they use 4K screens and want to use them to watch the Super Bowl, but no feedback, use high speed, no Ethernet. If they have 4K, want to watch the Super Bowl and have a touch screen, use high speed with Ethernet.
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:13 PM   #23
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The 100' HDMI cables now have a direction, one end has to go at the source, the other at the display. I have not had issues with these even at 4K. There's some kind of mini amplifier built into the cable. It's way better to figure this out before you run the cable and get everything set up than to notice the tiny little sticker just before you go to plug it in the TV and test it. Ask me how I know.

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for runs 50' and under, i go to the local surpus store - i can buy from them, add my markup and still keep you under $25CAD


never had an issue, even have a couple 15M HDMI runs in my own house i've picked up on the cheap.



anything over 50' tho, i've heard nothing but problems for anyone trying to do it on the cheap.
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Old 02-20-2019, 04:33 PM   #25
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Restaurants using TV’s as menu boards. I have been using cheap, skinny HDMI cables. Runs can be 50’. Is this going to bite me in the ass?

I like paying $25 compared to $100.
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The 100' HDMI cables now have a direction, one end has to go at the source, the other at the display. I have not had issues with these even at 4K. There's some kind of mini amplifier built into the cable. It's way better to figure this out before you run the cable and get everything set up than to notice the tiny little sticker just before you go to plug it in the TV and test it. Ask me how I know.

@99cents I buy my HDMI cables from ADI. Their cables are +/- a buck a foot (up to the 50'. The 100 foot goes up 2 fold). I picked up a 35 foot cable the other day for my place for 33 dollars plus tax. and the cables are THICK. Not the size of cable you get at the dollar store.

PLUS, their 100 foot HDMI cables I've been told (by the employees there) are BI-DIRECTIONAL! No need to worry about installing the cable the wrong way.

I buy ALL my low-voltage products there. You can get stuff for the same price (or LESS) than amazon prices. It's amazing. They even sell TV's... With no brand on them (perfect for restaurant menu boards where you don't want a brand name on things.) They have a bunch of house brand items, and they all have a warranty. It's not like buying something from amazon that came from china and you have to call India for the warranty.

I'm not sure where in Alberta you are, But Calgary and Edmonton both have branches. You can check here.
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Kevin, the cable being bi-directional isn't a good thing.

100' is simply too long for a typical passive HDMI cable (bi-directional). You are not going to be able to get higher resolutions at that length unless you have some type of active cable to modify the signal, which is why it is directional.

A menuboard that has a source sending out 720i? It might work fine. But if that source is 1080p there is a good chance it won't work, or will only work sometimes. 4K? No way.
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Kevin, the cable being bi-directional isn't a good thing.

100' is simply too long for a typical passive HDMI cable (bi-directional). You are not going to be able to get higher resolutions at that length unless you have some type of active cable to modify the signal, which is why it is directional.

A menuboard that has a source sending out 720i? It might work fine. But if that source is 1080p there is a good chance it won't work, or will only work sometimes. 4K? No way.
I did not know about the bi-directional being a bad thing... thank you for that information.

I am even hesitant to run a 50 foot cable (the longest I've run to date). Heck, that 35 foot cable i picked up for my apartment I feel it getting kind of long. The picture seems good though (I'm using it for Netflix in 1080p resolution).

I'm of the type that will use cat6 and adapters for anything over 50'.

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