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Old 12-03-2018, 06:46 PM   #1
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I'm a relatively new electrician in rural Ontario. I've been primarily buying my circuit breakers online from canadabreakers.com and amazon.com but I'd like to cut down my shipping costs.

I'm curious if anyone has solved this problem by buying breakers in bulk and if so, what breakers are you commonly stock piling.

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Old 12-03-2018, 08:03 PM   #2
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I suspect that answer would not only vary from country to country, but even within different states or provinces. For instance, in my area, there is almost no Siemens and GE. I carried QO, HOM, CH-CH, CH-BR, CH-CL, and FPE.
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In my area, Murray and Bryant (with the colored handles) were common for many decades. That's shifted to Homeline and CH-BR now.
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In my area, Murray and Bryant (with the colored handles) were common for many decades. That's shifted to Homeline and CH-BR now.
Sorta why I carried the CL classified replacement breakers because they worked in pretty much all the 1" Westinghouse clone panels. Murray, Bryant, Goulds, ITE, Crouse-Hinds, .... I dunno. A bunch of them.
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Canadian sparkys should be along sooner or later. @99cents @eddycurrent
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Buy breakers from someone you can trust. That’s a wholesaler or authorized retailer. No sense risking counterfeits to save a few bucks.

If you’re concerned about shipping costs on breakers, what about wire and cable?

If you’re doing resi, you need a good assortment of Siemens, QO, Homeline, Stab-Lok and Eaton. Eaton covers off old NovaLine (you can google Eaton Vintage Breakers for a complete list).
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Is buying construction material through the mail pretty common in Canada? I'm guessing many parts of the country aren't within a reasonable driving distance to a supply house?
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Hi,

I'm a relatively new electrician in rural Ontario. I've been primarily buying my circuit breakers online from canadabreakers.com and amazon.com but I'd like to cut down my shipping costs.

I'm curious if anyone has solved this problem by buying breakers in bulk and if so, what breakers are you commonly stock piling.

Thanks,
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It's extremely dangerous for a solo operator to 'bury' his working capital into inventory.

Working Capital:

1) Cash on hand ( Wallet, Bank )

2) Accounts Receivable ( avoid extending trade credit -- especially NOW )

3) Inventory ( in the shop or on the truck/van )

You want all of your Working Capital to be sitting in the bank... within practical limits.

Saving a few bucks on materials is the path to the poorhouse.

Put your effort into marketing... not shaving materials prices.

PM Hax inre the new way to market these days.
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Is buying construction material through the mail pretty common in Canada? I'm guessing many parts of the country aren't within a reasonable driving distance to a supply house?
I've never mail ordered material in the past. Call in to the wholesaler, give them the P/O or credit card information, and tell them how you want it shipped
- Greyhound, courier, transport company, leave it outside for me to pick up after hours, etc.. Up here we just got over a postal strike too (back to work legislation), so I wouldn't want to be waiting on a critical part to arrive during that kinda work disruption.
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It says free shipping on orders over $100. Are you ordering 1 breaker at a time?
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Is buying construction material through the mail pretty common in Canada?
On new builds: with the cost savings (after an accurate parts take off) of free shipping, the contractor saves money by not only having the drop shipping right to the site, but no longer has staff tied up at the wholesalers.Which we use to invest back into the staff that order the material

Sure you might miss one or two things. But that's a lot better than ordering a whole house of wire boxes etc, that ties up time with usually more than one person helping. And spending time off the tools at the wholesalers for at least half a day waiting in line packing it in a truck and driving to the site.
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I like going to the wholesale houses , so that way on occasion I can bump into one of the other near dead's who I have known in the trade for forty years or so........... Just to compare who's winning.
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On new builds: with the cost savings (after an accurate parts take off) of free shipping, the contractor saves money by not only having the drop shipping right to the site, but no longer has staff tied up at the wholesalers.Which we use to invest back into the staff that order the material

Sure you might miss one or two things. But that's a lot better than ordering a whole house of wire boxes etc, that ties up time with usually more than one person helping. And spending time off the tools at the wholesalers for at least half a day waiting in line packing it in a truck and driving to the site.
Will the SH not deliver to the site?

We can email/call in an order and have it delivered to the site. Typically this is next day only, but in some cases they will delivers the same day.

I hated guys at the SH too. I would have them call the order in before arrival so they could pick stuff up at Will Call and not sit around smacking lips, or worse get there and find out they SH is out of it.
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Will the SH not deliver to the site?

We can email/call in an order and have it delivered to the site. Typically this is next day only, but in some cases they will delivers the same day.

I hated guys at the SH too. I would have them call the order in before arrival so they could pick stuff up at Will Call and not sit around smacking lips, or worse get there and find out they SH is out of it.
Sometimes- if the parts are in stock. half the time they are back ordered on things- taking a few days for them to get orders together.

With the online ordering, it only took me about an hour to generate a list of items that we commonly use and can order by the online suppliers for faster ordering. And it's only a 24-48 hour wait.

With some of the locations and different cities, the SH doesn't always deliver in a fashionable time- holding up production or going to a local (to the site) SH that charges us more. With the online prices- they rarely change from week to week. so once we have the deposit, parts are ordered and the job scheduled in.

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Sometimes- if the parts are in stock. half the time they are back ordered on things- taking a few days for them to get orders together.

With the online ordering, it only took me about an hour to generate a list of items that we commonly use and can order by the online suppliers for faster ordering. And it's only a 24-48 hour wait.

With some of the locations and different cities, the SH doesn't always deliver in a fashionable time- holding up production or going to a local (to the site) SH that charges us more. With the online prices- they rarely change from week to week. so once we have the deposit, parts are ordered and the job scheduled in.

I order more and more online too, as the SH doesn't seem interested in being a SH these days. I swear they are just ordering from Amazon anyway....
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Sometimes- if the parts are in stock. half the time they are back ordered on things- taking a few days for them to get orders together.

With the online ordering, it only took me about an hour to generate a list of items that we commonly use and can order by the online suppliers for faster ordering. And it's only a 24-48 hour wait.

With some of the locations and different cities, the SH doesn't always deliver in a fashionable time- holding up production or going to a local (to the site) SH that charges us more. With the online prices- they rarely change from week to week. so once we have the deposit, parts are ordered and the job scheduled in.

I was just curious where you usually order breakers online.

At the moment, I'm primarily ordering from CanadaBreakers.ca or Amazon.ca.
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I was just curious where you usually order breakers online.

At the moment, I'm primarily ordering from CanadaBreakers.ca or Amazon.ca.
Check you visitors page, just messaged you. And take a mooment to fill out your profile as well. Just a general location so we know what area you're from etc.

And once you get a few more posts, you will be able to pm members.
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That's great, thanks.
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Get a SPA setup with your best local supply house. They can beat the online pricing with a SPA.
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Thanks, I appreciate the suggestion.
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