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Old 09-29-2012, 03:05 PM   #21
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In a situation like that where there aren't a lot of circuits, I have a method that works well and doesn't require you to cut the wall open.

Once the old panel is out and all the cables are splayed out of the wall, you are going to choose either the top or the bottom, whatever one has less cables, let's say in this case it's the bottom. You then take each cable and half-hitch a 2 foot piece of string to it, only tape it to the conductors, don't go down past the connector. Once all the cables are strung up, you neatly tuck them into the wall with the strings hanging out. Now you put all the cables coming from the top into the panel like you normally would and at this point you take each string and insert it into a KO in the bottom. Push the panel into the wall and then pull the strings one by one, pulling each cable into the panel. Install locknut and you're done.

This may sound complicated, but it only takes a few minutes. It won't take any longer than cutting and patching the wall but it will definitely leave your customers happier.

The only problem with this method is that it may get hard if you have too many cables, which is why that product posted above from Square D seems like a great option.
You stole that idea from Shunk.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:33 PM   #22
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You stole that idea from Shunk.
I think it's a pretty common trick. I've often done something like that, but using the bare grounds as the "pull strings" and fold back the insulated conductors.

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I've done that too just use the grounds. But just can't help but think there has to be a better way. It's not a huge problem, there are many good ways around it. Just one of those minor things that bugs me that I think could be easier if the right design was there, apparently square D thought so too.... Even though I've yet to see it really marketed.
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You stole that idea from Shunk.
Link to where he said it you half-a-troll.
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I usually cut the hole from the old panel as big as I can get it and still have the new panel cover fit. Then I knock out all the knock outs and put them in the new panel about an inch in and put the new panel in the wall and pull the wires in at the same time. Then pull all the connectors in the holes and put the lock nuts on. Don't always get by like that without patching but a lot of times it works.
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Put a wire window in over the panel, I can't seem to find a photo of one.
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