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Old 04-14-2012, 01:09 AM   #1
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Could not find a cut in 3/o box for a canopy. had to crawl in the ceiling and use a 4/o box.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:14 AM   #2
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Could not find a cut in 3/o box for a canopy. had to crawl in the ceiling and use a 4/o box.
Okay that was easy....
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The brown Union boxes are the only one's I know of that meet your requirement. They're only rated for 6 pounds, though.
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Okay that was easy....
my question is...... what if I did not have a crawl space?
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my question is...... what if I did not have a crawl space?
Then you'd have to do something different. You're an electrician. Figure it out.
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my question is...... what if I did not have a crawl space?
Use a ceiling fan box kit.
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This is the only 3/0 old work box I know about:

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Arlington makes something similar. Not sure of the part number but I could take a picture of one I have in the van. They're perfect for those small canopy-type pendants.
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Those are all 4/0 boxes.

They all look the same, but only the one on the right is used by hacks.
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This is the only 3/0 old work box I know about:

I tried this but the metal tabs stuck out past it....
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That's because they sell them at HD.
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I tried this but the metal tabs stuck out past it....
That's how it's supposed to work.
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I tried this but the metal tabs stuck out past it....
Sometimes, in tough old work applications, you don't have a choice but to use a 4/0 box and put a 6" plain flat medallion behind the fixture canopy if you don't want to do plaster work. You could also have holesawed a hole and screwed a 3-1/4" pancake right to the joist. I've done that a time or 500.
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thanks guys but none of these quite work

I think the pancake box with a couple toggles is the best option.

know i know for the next time....
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thanks guys but none of these quite work

I think the pancake box with a couple toggles is the best option.

know i know for the next time....
Toggles? What the hell for? If you have a canopy so small that the ears on an old work 3/0 box stick out past it, I highly doubt it has enough depth to conceal a surface mounted pancake.
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I tried this but the metal tabs stuck out past it....
All you need for those is the right sized hole saw then push the box in the hole and take your Phillips and pound the screws till the metal toggle pops in and opens up in the ceiling then crank the screws and it will work just like a big toggle bolt.
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