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Old 01-31-2015, 07:54 PM   #1
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Old 01-31-2015, 08:16 PM   #2
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What do you mean by better? More efficient? or quality of light, or all the above?
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Yep. But we know the direction this thread is going to take.
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What do you mean by better? More efficient? or quality of light, or all the above?
Including everything and balancing them out to what you think averages out better.
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I really can't decide. If the damn government wasn't involved and the different technologies were evolving on their own merits?
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I really can't decide. If the damn government wasn't involved and the different technologies were evolving on their own merits?
Led's are being pushed, by tax payer money, and power company money that you pay in your outrageous monthly bill for using 100 amps.

A huge amount of perfectly fine lighting fixtures are being ripped down and destroyed for no reason other than a political agenda.

There was nothing wrong with the mercury vapor cobra head street lights they have wasted for these LED's that cost $700 a pop! Those mercury vapor cobra head street lights would work for 20 years without a problem, and if they needed repair the cost of the stock( Lamp and Ballast) was less than $100, LED's you must replace the fixture at the big price...
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I have loved and installed LED for over 5 years now. Put in the time to research the LED BEFORE you sell or install it for a customer. Dimming is tricky but only if you do not do the leg work and learn the product you are installing.

Always look at return on investment. We pay $0.23/kW here. Most new installations pay for themselves within 1 year. Retrofits can too, you have to look at the numbers. It might be a $700 pole light but the customer won't have to pay for maintenance and the $ savings start from day 1.

RAB puts a 10 year warranty on there fixtures! If an LED won't pay for itself in 5 years it shouldn't go in.

CFL and tubes are done... Welcome to the 21rst century.
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I love led lights. I have them in my 6" cans in my living room, dimmed of course. And above my kitchen sink. I love the super bright light.

I have noticed some traffic lights where leds were used that snow now accumulates on. Where in the past the heat of the lamps would melt the snow....this seems like a bad application to me.
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I love led lights. I have them in my 6" cans in my living room, dimmed of course. And above my kitchen sink. I love the super bright light.

I have noticed some traffic lights where leds were used that snow now accumulates on. Where in the past the heat of the lamps would melt the snow....this seems like a bad application to me.
I have some LED's that do give off some heat. Too hot to touch bare handed. Do I have old technology?
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To say LEDs give off no heat ? Is simply untrue !
But ! It is a lot less than incandesants.
So leds do give off heat
Usually cheaper ones a bit more
Especially if they have poor/ no ventilation
Thats normal !
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Depends on the application, but in general LED is way better. And no mercury to worry about.
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Led's are being pushed, by tax payer money, and power company money that you pay in your outrageous monthly bill for using 100 amps.

A huge amount of perfectly fine lighting fixtures are being ripped down and destroyed for no reason other than a political agenda.

There was nothing wrong with the mercury vapor cobra head street lights they have wasted for these LED's that cost $700 a pop! Those mercury vapor cobra head street lights would work for 20 years without a problem, and if they needed repair the cost of the stock( Lamp and Ballast) was less than $100, LED's you must replace the fixture at the big price...

Dude Ive seen them go 50+ years with bulbs racking up 30 and still glowing (albeit 1/4 the original lumens). Old bulbs would typically go for 20 plus years. The ballasts are actually cheaper then HPS, no igniter to fail and the bulbs were and still are dirt cheap. Most reliable lamp ever made.

Not to mention 400 watt lamps could take a 240 volt reactor ballast and 1000 watt lamps took a 480 reactor making them the cheapest luminaires ever. Had it not been for the energy crisis MV lamps would have still been in major use up into the 90s.
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We're told the archaic incandescent inefficacy was heat loss, but all i see is>>>



(back of 60W LED)

So first impressions is, be suspicious of those doing the 'math'

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And , if you're lucky enough to reside in a state with it's own jackbooted contingent of energy nazis , you may be subject to energy audits , along with THEIR idea of an ROI....

Allow me to forward a recent example...>>>

An original audit here...... 72 ft of led retro costs approx $33 ft



Evolved to (same state rep btw), the very same job & materials amounts to $46 a ft





When i confronted this 'tax paid' individual on the exact same retro assuming nearly 40% jump, he did not respond

Lack of accountability being the beauty of state employment, i caution any of you being handed audits out there by them

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For Wall packs, no, I prefer induction
For layins and recessed, yes
For Highbays, not yet. But that could change after looking at some CREE
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Maybe the history channel can do a series on lighting retros....~CS~
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The candle salesman that hates light bulbs is trying to be relevant again.
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We're told the archaic incandescent inefficacy was heat loss, but all i see is>>>



(back of 60W LED)

So first impressions is, be suspicious of those doing the 'math'

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thats just because led doesn't support heat, while other type could run ok at 150C
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LED is the wave of the future.
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Personally, it's better overall if the grounds are down. Oh wait... different thread...







...or is it?
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