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#1 · (Edited)
Im an electrical contractor in NJ with over 30 years of experience. Before that I worked in industrial environment. I wanted to take my Florida license for "unlimited Contractor" the equivalent of my NJ license.
I did pass the accounting part and today was the Technical and Safety stuf.
I have failed miserably even though I studied a lot.

There are a few questions that definitely don't belong in that test.
1)For new poured concrete in a dry environment , in order to easily remove the framing boards you have to1) keep the concrete wet for 4-6 hours, 2-4 hours, sprinkle water over it or use plastic against the wooden boards.
I couldn't believe they asked this question.

Another one: you put tape at the edge of glass within 20 mm or 40 mm or it doesnt matter if does not affect the over all look. ??????

Another one had to do with an hallway wider then 20 Ft. If there are appliances within sight how far they have to be front the doors at the end of the hallway.
What the hell , I have no idea what the question is all about. Is there anyone that took "electrician unlimited lately. What percentage of the questions repeat in the next time Ill take the test. I have a chance to see the correct answer in a review but then I have to wait 21 days to the next exam.
 
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#4 ·
One of the subcategories in FL is electric sign contractor. That concrete question may have come from there or it could be dealing with duct banks. ACI318 is the standard for placing concrete. Without looking, I'm going to guess the answer is plastic.

Q2 I have no idea.

Q3 you can't have refrigeration equipment in a means of egress come from life safety code. Sounds like if the hallway is >20' wide they don't consider it a means of egress or if you can keep your equipment 20' from the required width of the means of egress they let it be there. I'd guess 20' as the answer.

There are test prep classes you can take. They usually last 1-2 days and are well worth the investment of time & money.
 
#5 ·
I might decide to downgrade the license to residential electrical contractor ( I dont know the exact name) Im kind of retired and bought some lots and i want to build and sell homes.
In my career I wired only one fire alarm system in one of my commercial buildings. Thank you for your input.
 
#7 ·
0 - Black
1 - Brown
2 - Red
3 - Orange
4 - Yellow
5 - Green
6 - Blue
7 - Violet
8 - Grey
9 - White

A phrase I was taught to remember this is "Bad Beer Rots Our Young Guts But Vodka Goes Well". There is at least one other version but it's racist as hell and I don't use it. You'll also notice that apart from Black, Brown, Grey, and White, it's the colours of the rainbow in order.

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#9 ·
If you can't eliminate ANY of the guesses -- then go with (C) -- test makers have a chronic bias towards (C) as the correct answer.

The forms separation question is queer.

For everyone uses Diesel fuel// discarded motor oil// applied immediately ahead of the pour against the false work.

Obviously, water chills the pour, and is known to reduce// eliminate cracking -- but is of no benefit when you're pulling your form work.

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Multiple guess tests require you to think negativity -- as in you must eliminate all grossly wrong guesses.
 
#11 ·
I've had to identify resistors when working on fire alarms a couple times. Though I remember that mnemonic, there are phone apps that identify resistors easily. Also you could break out a meter and test it just as fast. It's one of those things you need to know just long enough to pass a test, then promptly forget to make room for other more important knowledge.

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:laughing: (another place I need that laugh button)
 
#20 ·
Its like trying to remember the way cat five goes into a male jack, I don't need to remember, google takes care of it. The same way it takes care of the rare times I need to identify a resistor. I have a few on the van for generator work, but their either labeled or I can look it up. I took test prep before my tests and did well, though we don't have electrical contractors license's tests here in NH. Don't give them any ideas either...

Furthermore, get right back on the horse after some prep and take it again.
 
#22 ·
Thank you for encouragement. The interesting thing is that the quality of the job is the same as in states with exams. I feel like all my life I drove a car then I came to FL and they want me to take an exam. The questions involve , mass, velocity, inertia, CPR and wound treating methods, psychiatric test and so on. Now they say Im not qualified to drive.
 
#23 ·
We have Journeyman's and Masters and that's where it ends. We'd like to reciprocate with more states than just MA and NH and the State works on that from time to time. All I needed was a master's and I was good to be in business for myself, not including the usual stuff like forming a LLC etc, tax id, insurance, and so forth. My guess is that it stymied more than just you. Keep at it.
 
#27 ·
Im going to post a few questions from my exam which Im no sure I have got it right or wrong.
One of them was If you have a 3PH, 240V 2HP motor 200 ft from the power supply,with #12 aluminium in PVC conduit, what is the voltage drop.

Looking at the full load table it takes 6.8 Amp.
The problem I have is with Table 9
It says: ohms to Neutral per kilometer and under it says: ohms to neutral per 1000Ft.
Well, which one is it because 1000ft is not a kilometer
 
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