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Old 12-31-2016, 01:29 AM   #1
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Recent experience gives me appreciation for UL Listing...

A contractor I work with bought 2 great looking gold lights with very slim mounting surface (sconces). They were not UL listed, but a note inside said "Meets some of the UL Testing Criteria".

The mounting surface was about 1 5/8 wide, too narrow for any boxes. The solution from manufacturer was to mount to a octagon box, set in 1/2", metal cover plate on with 1/2" knockout in center.

Then sheetrock over edges of octogon so that 1 1/2 allows sconce to cover outlet rectangle.

Long story short this did not allow for access to the outlet box. I told the contractor it is against code, that in future UL listing Fixtures will garantee that he can find a code-approved-outlet box. I didn't realize UL listings were there for a good reason, in this case 1/2 day lost to figure out how to mount, and then then that there was not way to mount without violating code.

Any UL Listing feedback/stories. I thought was interesting experience. He recently got 2 new sconces for different room, these are "ETL" listed, not UL. I've never seen ETL, all supply stores here are UL.

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ETL is just as good. They are both NRTLs
Here is a list of current ones out there for the US:

https://www.osha.gov/dts/otpca/nrtl/nrtllist.html
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Get used to seeing a lot more things with only the ETL and not the UL listing, because UL has gotten too big for it's britches and the costs to test products is off the charts.

Our government should be the only authority for "approving" electrical products.
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Got it, good to know, I wasn't sure about ETL listing. Thanks for the feedback and the list, I'll need to look it over to familiarize.
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