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Old 10-30-2017, 08:44 AM   #1
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In late 1970 early 80's I was involved with the FPE recall for circuit breakers, I believe at that time the recall was in regards to the AIC ratings not meeting levels published for the circuit breakers.

FPE put out a list of affected circuit breakers and the correct GE replacement circuit breakers that would meet UL standards. The GE circuit breakers came with adaptor plates to allow them to properly fit existing FPE panels.

I kept the FPE information regarding this recall for future reference, while the future is here and durn if I can find the information anywhere.

Is there anyone that may have this information they could share.
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Old 10-30-2017, 11:47 AM   #2
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I do not have info Op is looking for , but I did get service call
yesterday (Sunday) where an FPE main breaker s**t out...$$$
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You sure it wasn't Westinghouse/Eaton? What model panel are you dealing with? I should have a list of Eaton breakers and hardware kits
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You sure it wasn't Westinghouse/Eaton? What model panel are you dealing with? I should have a list of Eaton breakers and hardware kits
I am positive all the circuit breakers we installed were GE.

The existing FPE's were NEF 3 pole and the GE's are TED 3 Pole all the 40's are FPE all the 20's in the whole facility were replaced with GE's.
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IMO I wouldn't waste the time or energy looking for anything to replace or fit an existing FPE panel. I have seen first hand the damage they can do and wouldn't want the liability associated with that garbage.
It would be a panel change or get someone else...
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IMO I wouldn't waste the time or energy looking for anything to replace or fit an existing FPE panel. I have seen first hand the damage they can do and wouldn't want the liability associated with that garbage.
It would be a panel change or get someone else...
I assume you are talking residential CBs?

These are bolt-in circuit breakers in a very large establishment and basically, copper bus generally does not go bad unless heated or submerged, now insulating material can and will break down but that is not the issue here. New style GE breakers and apparently EATON circuit breakers were the acceptable replacements as tested by UL.

The recall I worked on utilized GE TED circuit breakers and the issues with the FPE CBs was the AIC ratings.

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EATON / Cutler Hammer always seem to be the go to people for retrofits here.
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I assume you are talking residential CBs?

These are bolt-in circuit breakers in a very large establishment and basically, copper bus generally does not go bad unless heated or submerged, now insulating material can and will break down but that is not the issue here. New style GE breakers and apparently EATON circuit breakers were the acceptable replacements as tested by UL.

The recall I worked on utilized GE TED circuit breakers and the issues with the FPE CBs was the AIC ratings.

Lastly, I am the someone else.
The panels I've changed have all been 1-phase general purpose panels in manufacturing facilities, but it wouldn't matter. I don't work on any FPE CBs no matter what size or type.
That is the beauty of our business though...there's always a "someone else"
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We do a lot of work on these FPE breakers.
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I assume you are talking residential CBs?

These are bolt-in circuit breakers in a very large establishment and basically, copper bus generally does not go bad unless heated or submerged, now insulating material can and will break down but that is not the issue here. New style GE breakers and apparently EATON circuit breakers were the acceptable replacements as tested by UL.

The recall I worked on utilized GE TED circuit breakers and the issues with the FPE CBs was the AIC ratings.

Lastly, I am the someone else.
This is a hardware kit for Eaton breakers in FPE (CDP) panel.

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Gotta love that sizzling noise when you pull them out.

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