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Old 09-23-2017, 10:36 AM   #21
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Take one of the neutral SS's out and drill thru it into the can. Then run a screw thru both.
That will look way more factory than some jerry rigged strap.
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:39 AM   #22
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Did you even look in the bottom of the panel?
Is this one of those ****ing skinny little GE POS?
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Old 09-23-2017, 01:27 PM   #23
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If the panel is fed by a transformer that's close by, bond in the XFMR and run a ground to the ground bus.

Might not be possible though.......
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Could it be this kit?

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I'd just bend up a strap.
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If a piece of wire and a lug would be legal, why would you be doing it again? The answer to why is it this way on a brand new panel is the honest one: evidently the bond strap was lost.

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Old 09-24-2017, 06:13 AM   #27
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Wouldn't it be funny if this stinker was bonded up inside a dry-type transformer set nearby ?
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Wouldn't it be funny if this stinker was bonded up inside a dry-type transformer set nearby ?
It would be even funnier if you looked in my van and found at least ten each 24''pieces of #4, #2, and #1/0 cu conductors cause I'm a service contractor. Some are closer to 6 feet long. Just like American Express, don't leave home without it.
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It would be even funnier if you looked in my van and found at least ten each 24''pieces of #4, #2, and #1/0 cu conductors cause I'm a service contractor. Some are closer to 6 feet long. Just like American Express, don't leave home without it.
I like to leave some #2 and 4/0 in cases where I have to replace a main breaker and its so bad I have to cut the wires out of the lugs to replace it and splice wire in to reach the new breaker. Worst case we put in a 100 amp breaker and splice #2 to whatever is there and schedule a panel upgrade.

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It would be even funnier if you looked in my van and found at least ten each 24''pieces of #4, #2, and #1/0 cu conductors cause I'm a service contractor. Some are closer to 6 feet long. Just like American Express, don't leave home without it.
I don't cut then to 24" because sometimes I need longer pieces. But I have #4 and #6 copper and #2 aluminum coils. #2 copper is an oddity for me so I don't have any.
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It would be even funnier if you looked in my van and found at least ten each 24''pieces of #4, #2, and #1/0 cu conductors cause I'm a service contractor. Some are closer to 6 feet long. Just like American Express, don't leave home without it.
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So BITE ME.
Instead of that long drawn out post that had nothing to do with the discussion, you should have just admitted that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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If a piece of wire and a lug would be legal, why would you be doing it again? The answer to why is it this way on a brand new panel is the honest one: evidently the bond strap was lost.

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You'd just have to know these clowns. It's a GD nightmare dealing with them. This is military engineers, civilian project managers, and inspectors which come in teams of both. Believe me, it's best to fool them than try to explain code.
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Could it be this kit?

GE BNDKT

The guy on the right looks like it would fit just right and is what I pictured making from a box blank.
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Why did you do this?

Because it's much better than the little tiny bar they give you and it's code compliant to do it.
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OK. I'm going to do it like you guys suggest and just put a big obvious lug and #4 jumper out there. But I've already won literally $230000 worth of pending projects on this site, so if this little bodge gets me ejected, I'm coming for each one of you...
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OK. I'm going to do it like you guys suggest and just put a big obvious lug and #4 jumper out there. But I've already won literally $230000 worth of pending projects on this site, so if this little bodge gets me ejected, I'm coming for each one of you...
I'm just trying to get you back for all the cash I've lost on the wasted neutrals on all the Tesla chargers I've installed.
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I'm just trying to get you back for all the cash I've lost on the wasted neutrals on all the Tesla chargers I've installed.
I'm shaking my fist at you now!
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You'd just have to know these clowns. It's a GD nightmare dealing with them. This is military engineers, civilian project managers, and inspectors which come in teams of both. Believe me, it's best to fool them than try to explain code.
I sure hope this job you "inherited" you put provision in your contract to get paid extra for running down missing parts
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