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Old 02-08-2015, 11:59 AM   #41
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Come to think of it, even if one applies the right size sq drive, they are a pita.....~CS~
Not to be a di:& but your going to complain about the screws on panel cover? Get a matching tap and run a tap thru it first would take a whole 1 minute. I've been using Ge for years and can't say I've had any problems. Here no different then Siemens and Homeline. The only real brand difference would be to the QO . Other than that it's all the same and today's testing is a little stringent .
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Old 02-08-2015, 12:07 PM   #42
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I've been a GE man for the pasr 14 years. Yes i periodically encounter a couple defective breakers out of the package but in reliability not one panel installed ever encountered bus bar or main breaker failure. I can say the same for Siemens circa 2002 . Used to install the copper bus units with the quad mains. No problems either.
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Not to be a di:& but your going to complain about the screws on panel cover? Get a matching tap and run a tap thru it first would take a whole 1 minute. I've been using Ge for years and can't say I've had any problems. Here no different then Siemens and Homeline. The only real brand difference would be to the QO . Other than that it's all the same and today's testing is a little stringent .
I hate thst they dont tap the panel for the cover screws. Lazy bastards.
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Doesn't anyone like Wadsworth, Colt, or Trumbull here?
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Doesn't anyone like Wadsworth, Colt, or Trumbull here?
Im an arrow hart fuse panel kind of guy. Never had a defective edison type fuse out of the package, god damnit!
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Could some of you GE guys tell me what's up with the mini/1/2" combo knockouts on the GE Resi. tubs? What fits in the small not even 1/2" size?

My only gripe with GE is the stupid backwards lugs on the breakers that make you think the wire is landed when it is not.
But theses prices would intrested me.
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Doesn't anyone like Wadsworth, Colt, or Trumbull here?
I thought you preferred Pushmatic panels and Pushmatic arc fault circuit breakers?
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No way man, I use FPE and Zinsco.
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Not to be a di:& but your going to complain about the screws on panel cover?
It's the screw that holds the wire on the breaker, not the ones for the lid. They seem to be soft but also it seems like they tork them sob's down at the plant before shipping them to the suppliers.
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Soft screws? Huh.....did you ever think you're over torquing? 99.99999% of all electricians are guilty of this. Don't believe me? Buy some torque screwdrivers and you will see. ....
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Soft screws? Huh.....did you ever think you're over torquing? 99.99999% of all electricians are guilty of this. Don't believe me? Buy some torque screwdrivers and you will see. ....
I am talking about trying to back the screw out so I can land my wire on it.
Re read what I wrote.
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I am talking about trying to back the screw out so I can land my wire on it.
Re read what I wrote.
So now you're gonna say you're stripping them out while backing them off? Yeah..... uh huh....... and I've got some ocean front property in Arizona. .
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So now you're gonna say you're stripping them out while backing them off? Yeah..... uh huh....... and I've got some ocean front property in Arizona. .
A few in the past 15 yrs yes.
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It's harder to tell whether the wire is actually in the breaker or not.
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Could some of you GE guys tell me what's up with the mini/1/2" combo knockouts on the GE Resi. tubs? What fits in the small not even 1/2" size?
I always thought those were for situations where can't hit knockout from correct side, knock out the small one so you can get screwdriver in to twist larger size out?
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I thought you preferred Pushmatic panels and Pushmatic arc fault circuit breakers?
It's a tie between Pushmatic and General Switch.
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I always thought those were for situations where can't hit knockout from correct side, knock out the small one so you can get screwdriver in to twist larger size out?
Yeah I get that for the small small ones like the size of a #4 or just slightly larger, but isn't GE the maker that has the ones that are also just slightly smaller than the 1/2" k.o.s? The ones that in my opinion are a bitch to remove and serve no earthy purpose.
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I love those knock outs. I wish that ge still used them in 200a panels
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I also live in the Pgh area and have heard about the panel specials that Scott is offering.

Although I'm not particularly fond of the GE products, the primary reason I wouldn't even consider buying these from Scott is because of their history. Scott Electric has been sued by Square D as well as the Consumer Products Safety Commission on a couple of occasions dating back to into the 1990's with the most recent being just a few years ago regarding the sale of tens of thousands of counterfeit breakers.

I am way too small of a player to end up caught up in any kind of a lawsuit concerning the authenticity of any product I install. Even if I purchase the product in good faith and assume that everything is legitimate I would be drawn into a situation that I would be forced to defend myself. The fact that I would have offered these products whether because of price, performance or just my personal preference would leave me exposed to some degree of liability. I feel much better dealing with one of the many other supply houses in the area without this history of problems.

Read more about them at the links below;

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2007/...o-Fire-Hazard/

http://www.neca-neis.org/ccl/newslet...articleID=6976

http://www.mdm.com/articles/print/31...ed-Distributor

http://www.controlglobal.com/industrynews/2006/051/

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