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Old 08-16-2019, 01:01 PM   #11581
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I don't know about all those things Mech mentioned but when I buy bread, I get the 15 grain whatever it is. It's delicious. Eating a slice of that is like eating cake. I say "a" slice because one slice is 160 calories and you just don't need as many calories as you age and your metabolism decreases.
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I don't know about all those things Mech mentioned but when I buy bread, I get the 15 grain whatever it is. It's delicious. Eating a slice of that is like eating cake. I say "a" slice because one slice is 160 calories and you just don't need as many calories as you age and your metabolism decreases.
Calories burn but carbs stick with you and turn into sugars later.

I don't count calories at all just carbs.

Ever see the Atkins or Air Force diet?
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Not into "diets". I just source healthy foods and eat as much as I want. I do look at calories when I shop and it does figure into what size portions I prepare but I'll eat as much or as little as I want at any given time. Eating that 15 grain bread is like eating a piece of cake. Makes for a great snack. If I'm having fish or chicken or whatever, I don't put it on bread. Just seems like better food straight up on the plate.
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Old 08-17-2019, 02:32 PM   #11586
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You are showing this out of context, the poster did this purposefully to show that that lug does not work with that particular ground bar.
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I think its the one they plugged space heater into

Still worked tho
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Forgot the anti-short.
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Just because the guy before you did a crummy job doesn’t mean you have to.
In this installation.....not so true. How the hell you gonna add anything to that and make it presentable
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Forgot the anti-short.

I use anti shorts even though they aren't required by code but the stress in that snapped 90 on the conductors would be my main concern.
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Still worked tho
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Yet another gem, i just found, hidden away in a crawl space
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I use anti shorts even though they aren't required by code but the stress in that snapped 90 on the conductors would be my main concern.
My concern also, hence the

I use anti-shorts all the time because 12-610 1) requires it?

1) Where conductors issue from armour, they shall be protected from abrasion by
a)an insulating bushing or equivalent protection installed between the conductors and the armour,

3) where armoured cable is fastened to equipment, the connector or clamp shall be of such design as to leave the insulating bushing or equivalent visible for inspection.

That's what the little tit is for on the anti-short and what the little hole is for on the back cover of a 90 connector.
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My concern also, hence the

I use anti-shorts all the time because 12-610 1) requires it?

1) Where conductors issue from armour, they shall be protected from abrasion by
a)an insulating bushing or equivalent protection installed between the conductors and the armour,

3) where armoured cable is fastened to equipment, the connector or clamp shall be of such design as to leave the insulating bushing or equivalent visible for inspection.

That's what the little tit is for on the anti-short and what the little hole is for on the back cover of a 90 connector.


I personally use them because that is how I was taught but I have caught flak numerous times about a waste of time and money for using them.

Then there is this:

ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
BULLETIN
No. 90

August 14, 2002

Use of Anti-Short Bushings for Terminating Type MC Cable
There has been much confusion within the Installation and Inspection communities regarding the
use of anti-short bushings for terminating Type MC cable. The confusion stems from the fact
that some MC cable manufacturers include anti-short bushings with their cable. The inclusion of
anti-short bushings with coils or reels of MC cable is based on historical practice relating to the
requirements of 320.40 of the NEC, which mandates the use of anti-short bushing or its
equivalent protection for Type AC Cable
Fittings used with Type MC Cable are required to be listed per 330.40 of the NEC. NEMA
supports the use of listed fittings for MC Cable. The design of these fittings may or may not
include an insulated throat however, they are required to be provided with a smooth, rounded end
stop so that the metal sheath of the cable will not pass through and the wires will not be damaged
in passing over the end stop. Whether or not an insulated throat is part of the listed product, these
listed MC fittings do not require an additional anti-short bushing. Anti-short bushings that may
be supplied by MC Cable manufacturers are for optional use by the installer, however they are
not required.


ROP #7-116 from the May 2001 Report on Proposals (ROP) for the 2002 NEC was a proposal
seeking to require anti-short bushings on all MC Cable termination installations.
The following is an excerpt from the Panel statement rejecting the proposal:

Anti-short bushings are not required for Type MC cable in accordance with the listing for
the product. The termination fittings approved for use with Type MC cables are designed
such that the wires will not come in contact with the cut edge of the armor; the throat of
the fitting is small enough to prevent contact with the armor. Type MC termination
fittings perform the same function for Type MC cable as Type AC terminations plus the
anti-short bushing do for Type AC cable.


NEMA supports the uniform adoption and enforcement of the NEC and recommends that local
Authorities Having Jurisdiction follow the requirements of NEC Section 330.40, Boxes and
Fittings for MC Cable. Section 330.40 requires that the fitting be listed, but does not mandate the
use of an anti-short bushing.

Distribution List:

Standards and Conformity Assessment Policy Committee
Codes and Standards Committee
NEMA Executive Staff
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Yet another gem, i just found, hidden away in a crawl space
Not sure what I am looking at... did somebody use a 411/6 box as an LB cover?

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