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99cents 04-04-2019 08:40 AM

Hiding splice boxes, Part 2
 
Lets say you want to run 12C12 Teck to an 884 JB and branch out from there. You don’t want a complicated JB above a T bar ceiling. Would you hide it behind a pop cooler?

Hack or not hack?

lighterup 04-04-2019 08:45 AM

(A)...part 2? Did we really need a "Part 2"?

(B)...sprekenz zee Americansk...I don't understand this language

(C) where's C.S. when you need an interpreter

HackWork 04-04-2019 08:46 AM

Why wouldn't you want a junction box above a drop ceiling?

99cents 04-04-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HackWork (Post 5184442)
Why wouldn't you want a junction box above a drop ceiling?

I want to get in ahead of the tinbasher. He’s going to fill the ceiling with duct and the JB no doubt will end up in an awkward place.

The tiles will be painted drywall and are a sonomobitch to lift after the fact.

And just some other trade scheduling things that make it easier to put the JB in the wall.

HackWork 04-04-2019 09:00 AM

I'd still put it on a wall down low near the top of the grid.

Coil all the cables up with an extra 5 foot or so, then install the junction box later after the duct is up.

CoolWill 04-04-2019 09:07 AM

Yes. Hide you box anywhere... As long as it's not behind a non-removable building finish.

99cents 04-04-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lighterup (Post 5184438)
(A)...part 2? Did we really need a "Part 2"?

(B)...sprekenz zee Americansk...I don't understand this language

(C) where's C.S. when you need an interpreter

What do you need interpreted? Seems simple enough to me. :)

99cents 04-04-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolWill (Post 5184458)
Yes. Hide you box anywhere... As long as it's not behind a non-removable building finish.

Thatís the answer I need. Itís always good to get validation from another elite tradesman. :)

sbrn33 04-04-2019 09:25 AM

What is teck cable?

99cents 04-04-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sbrn33 (Post 5184464)
What is teck cable?

This idea only I’m using 12 conductor. It’s the Canadian answer to everything. :)

Wiredindallas 04-04-2019 10:10 AM

A J box behind an easily moveable appliance has always been my practice. Out of site, out of mind, yet accessable if needed without any damage to the room.

B-Nabs 04-04-2019 11:35 AM

Is said pop cooler on wheels?

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99cents 04-04-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by B-Nabs (Post 5184506)
Is said pop cooler on wheels?

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No, itís a good point. I can put it behind a freezer on castors, which is a better idea.

macmikeman 04-04-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 99cents (Post 5184470)
This idea only Iím using 12 conductor. Itís the Canadian answer to everything. :)

Holy crap that looks hard to open up. Enlighten me. Shurly not a mere razor knife? Is there a quick strip tool invented like the one I have for me 14-2?


https://www.utilityproducts.com/cont...limage.img.jpg

HackWork 04-04-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B-Nabs (Post 5184506)
Is said pop cooler on wheels?

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Yeah, this really matters. At first I thought he meant one of those large rows of coolers similar to what you see in the frozen food aisles. A lot of delis and bagel stores around here have those and they are essentially fixed equipment that would be extremely hard to get behind.

But if itís just a small one or two door refrigerator that can be moved, thereís no reason not to put boxes behind it. Itís going to have an outlet box anyway.

But I still believe a junction box up above the drop ceiling is the best option.

99cents 04-04-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by macmikeman (Post 5184516)
Holy crap that looks hard to open up. Enlighten me. Shurly not a mere razor knife? Is there a quick strip tool invented like the one I have for me 14-2?


https://www.utilityproducts.com/cont...limage.img.jpg

Strip off the outer jacket. Score the armour (carefully) with a Hackzall. Take off the armour, strip off the inner jacket. Easy once you do it enough times.

macmikeman 04-04-2019 12:22 PM

I bet if your country had a serious sized population, Ideal would make a quickie one hand movement tool to remove all that nonsense wrapped around the conductors. As it stands though, what? 100 of you guys all total? Not enough to be bothered.............

trentonmakes 04-04-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 99cents (Post 5184530)
Strip off the outer jacket. Score the armour (carefully) with a Hackzall. Take off the armour, strip off the inner jacket. Easy once you do it enough times.

You guys need MC cable

Bend it in 1/2 til it splits, turn it, then snip the metal strand holding it together.

Easy peesy

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99cents 04-04-2019 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by trentonmakes (Post 5184534)
You guys need MC cable

Bend it in 1/2 til it splits, turn it, then snip the metal strand holding it together.

Easy peesy

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In 12 conductor? This stuff is bulletproof. I can throw it in the slab. Iím using 12C12, 3C10 and 6C10 on a small job. The wire houses sell me cuts. A real time saver and I can allow for a few spares here and there. Think big noodles rather than spaghetti :) .

daveEM 04-04-2019 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 99cents (Post 5184470)
Iím using 12 conductor. Itís the Canadian answer to everything. :)

I'm fortunate in that I've not used this teck stuff. Only BX when I didn't want to thread rigid. What amperage are the conductors rated for? Must be derated no?

Can i have a foot for my desk?


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