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Old 04-04-2019, 08:40 AM   #1
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Lets say you want to run 12C12 Teck to an 884 JB and branch out from there. You don’t want a complicated JB above a T bar ceiling. Would you hide it behind a pop cooler?

Hack or not hack?
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:45 AM   #2
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(A)...part 2? Did we really need a "Part 2"?

(B)...sprekenz zee Americansk...I don't understand this language

(C) where's C.S. when you need an interpreter
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Why wouldn't you want a junction box above a drop ceiling?
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Why wouldn't you want a junction box above a drop ceiling?
I want to get in ahead of the tinbasher. He’s going to fill the ceiling with duct and the JB no doubt will end up in an awkward place.

The tiles will be painted drywall and are a sonomobitch to lift after the fact.

And just some other trade scheduling things that make it easier to put the JB in the wall.

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I'd still put it on a wall down low near the top of the grid.

Coil all the cables up with an extra 5 foot or so, then install the junction box later after the duct is up.
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Yes. Hide you box anywhere... As long as it's not behind a non-removable building finish.
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(A)...part 2? Did we really need a "Part 2"?

(B)...sprekenz zee Americansk...I don't understand this language

(C) where's C.S. when you need an interpreter
What do you need interpreted? Seems simple enough to me.
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Yes. Hide you box anywhere... As long as it's not behind a non-removable building finish.
Thatís the answer I need. Itís always good to get validation from another elite tradesman.
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What is teck cable?
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What is teck cable?
This idea only I’m using 12 conductor. It’s the Canadian answer to everything.
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A J box behind an easily moveable appliance has always been my practice. Out of site, out of mind, yet accessable if needed without any damage to the room.
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Is said pop cooler on wheels?

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No, itís a good point. I can put it behind a freezer on castors, which is a better idea.
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This idea only Iím using 12 conductor. Itís the Canadian answer to everything.
Holy crap that looks hard to open up. Enlighten me. Shurly not a mere razor knife? Is there a quick strip tool invented like the one I have for me 14-2?


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Yeah, this really matters. At first I thought he meant one of those large rows of coolers similar to what you see in the frozen food aisles. A lot of delis and bagel stores around here have those and they are essentially fixed equipment that would be extremely hard to get behind.

But if itís just a small one or two door refrigerator that can be moved, thereís no reason not to put boxes behind it. Itís going to have an outlet box anyway.

But I still believe a junction box up above the drop ceiling is the best option.
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Strip off the outer jacket. Score the armour (carefully) with a Hackzall. Take off the armour, strip off the inner jacket. Easy once you do it enough times.
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I bet if your country had a serious sized population, Ideal would make a quickie one hand movement tool to remove all that nonsense wrapped around the conductors. As it stands though, what? 100 of you guys all total? Not enough to be bothered.............
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Strip off the outer jacket. Score the armour (carefully) with a Hackzall. Take off the armour, strip off the inner jacket. Easy once you do it enough times.
You guys need MC cable

Bend it in 1/2 til it splits, turn it, then snip the metal strand holding it together.

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Bend it in 1/2 til it splits, turn it, then snip the metal strand holding it together.

Easy peesy

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In 12 conductor? This stuff is bulletproof. I can throw it in the slab. Iím using 12C12, 3C10 and 6C10 on a small job. The wire houses sell me cuts. A real time saver and I can allow for a few spares here and there. Think big noodles rather than spaghetti .
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Iím using 12 conductor. Itís the Canadian answer to everything.
I'm fortunate in that I've not used this teck stuff. Only BX when I didn't want to thread rigid. What amperage are the conductors rated for? Must be derated no?

Can i have a foot for my desk?
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