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Old 02-15-2015, 11:16 PM   #21
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"slapping" it to neutral would trip it more reliably, would it not?
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Old 02-16-2015, 10:31 AM   #22
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Old 02-16-2015, 11:38 AM   #23
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Be careful with shutting off mains. I have had to that to test stuff and found the breaker could not be reset. Some of those old mains can be trouble especially if it is in a damp location.
This worries me any time that I have to kill the main on an older panel. Particularly those older Murray panels
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On the plus side though guys....if the main is screwed and you can't shut it off or can't reset it......then you get to sell a service(or at least a panel) upgrade.
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Then you have to deal with the "but it worked before".
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Then you have to deal with the "but it worked before".
True......and how do you explain that it certainly did NOT work before?
More headache then its worth.
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I usually slap the the hot to ground however I'm a little more cautious than in my younger days.I pulled that trick in a recently installed tile bathroom and the molten copper drops made a nice pattern embedded in the custom tile job.So now I'm a little more selective of when and where I trip the breaker.
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Are you guys in this for the long haul or not?

Buy a proper circuit tracer for Pete's sake before you kill yourselves! If you buy a good one and spread the cost over 10-20 years, it's only a few bucks a year.

I use an Amprobe AT-2005 that I've had for 6 years now. I can't imagine going without it, especially when I'm working in restaurant or office building panels.
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