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Old 03-30-2017, 08:40 PM   #21
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You drive them outside. Haven't you seen all the threads about driving ground rods? You are posting in one right now

Driving a ground rod into frozen dirt is easier than digging a hole for that plate you guys use.

We don't pipe the wire (GEC) in here, we just run it any way that we can. There is no depth requirement for it.
I don't usually read ground rod posts. No need.
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Old 03-30-2017, 08:42 PM   #22
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Here is an example. You can see the GEC coming out of the house and the 2 ground rods I drove in by hand until I couldnt get them any further. That was time for the Hilti.

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I'm using the iPad so it uploaded the image sideways.
Cool. Thanks, Hack .
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Toss it in the trench.
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A piece of 2" RGC about 2ft long with a coupling on one end and a plumbing plug in the coupling (because they are stronger). Slide it up and down over the rod and let the weight drive it in.
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Hilti with rod driving attachment. Never tried the plates, will have to look into them, some areas here are brutal on rods.
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A piece of 2" RGC about 2ft long with a coupling on one end and a plumbing plug in the coupling (because they are stronger). Slide it up and down over the rod and let the weight drive it in.

We've a 5' 3/4"GRC sliding sledge, coupled @ 2' , for when there is no power

SDS hammer drill w/ 1/2" emt sleeve , if there is power available

In the case of an open ditch ,250.53G is taken advantage of (ala JLarson)

further> IF <25 Ohms validation were universal , I suspect Ufers would gain popularity rather quickly

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If be proud too if I figured out how to attach a socket to a hammer drill bit. Do they make a 3/8 drive adapter or something?

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Now that I think about it, they were using my 18 volt fuel hammer drill.
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I normally dig a small hole, fill it with water and jack it off all the way in. Then I hide the evidence by covering it with decent dirt.
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further> IF <25 Ohms validation were universal , I suspect Ufers would gain popularity rather quickly
This might seem like a crazy idea but I think you should be allowed to make a ufer that isn't part of the foundation. Use it pretty much like a plate.

I am pretty well convinced that surge protection works better with low ground impedance but after seeing the photos @drsparky posted of concrete damaged by lightning strikes, I wouldn't want the rebar in my foundation to be a ground electrode.
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I recently purchased TheGroundPounder. It's a American made tool that works great. I only drive rods every other week on new services. I purchased this on website Greenwood Tool Company, but I did see J. Harlen Co. Is selling them as well. Great tool. There's a video on YouTube.

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I recently purchased TheGroundPounder. It's a American made tool that works great. I only drive rods every other week on new services. I purchased this on website Greenwood Tool Company, but I did see J. Harlen Co. Is selling them as well. Great tool. There's a video on YouTube.

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That's literally a pipe with a block of steel welded to it. $240?
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I found the guys using an 18 volt Milwaukee SDS drill with a deep socket.
It was pushing them in pretty.
The guys were as proud a two peckered billy goat.
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I found the guys using an 18 volt Milwaukee SDS drill with a deep socket.
It was pushing them in pretty.
The guys were as proud a two peckered billy goat.
I can't say I have any idea how proud a two peckered billy goat would be.

Never came across such a goat.

Do you frequent goat ranches often?
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The word for today is " manufactured" . Try to show Osha a tool welded up in a garage with no warning labels on a commercial job site.
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The word for today is " manufactured" . Try to show Osha a tool welded up in a garage with no warning labels on a commercial job site.
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If be proud too if I figured out how to attach a socket to a hammer drill bit. Do they make a 3/8 drive adapter or something?

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They makes adapters for SDS to 1/4", 3/8", and 1/2" square drive.

The 1/2" one i have is made by Hitachi.
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SDS ground rod socket:



1" hex:



I'm sure they can be had for any shaft configuration.
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That's literally a pipe with a block of steel welded to it. $240?
Find a welder who can weld up four half inch plate squares on the end of a 2" piece of rigid that is say 2' long with threads, so, you can thread on another 18" piece. That would pound it down far enough to safely be able to use a roto hammer or flip the driver over and finish the job with the plates.
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The word for today is " manufactured" . Try to show Osha a tool welded up in a garage with no warning labels on a commercial job site.
While I would normally agree with your thought process here, I have seen plenty of tools such as shovels, sledge hammers, and fence post drivers that have the look of 'home made' and have absolutely zero labels on them and have never been questioned or seen them brought up by inspectors of any kind.
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The word for today is " manufactured" . Try to show Osha a tool welded up in a garage with no warning labels on a commercial job site.

While I would normally agree with your thought process here, I have seen plenty of tools such as shovels, sledge hammers, and fence post drivers that have the look of 'home made' and have absolutely zero labels on them and have never been questioned or seen them brought up by inspectors of any kind.

Sometimes the "homemade" tool is the only option to keep you from serious hand injury.
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