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Old 05-26-2018, 09:35 AM   #41
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Naaaa. The best hot dogs are the free ones at counter day
I have not eaten a hotdog in 47 years, Had a 7-11 hotdog as a helper and got food poisoning, swore off the things.
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:39 AM   #42
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With the move to LED lights with their low current input nowadays, I would go with 18 gauge for greater cost reduction and profit increase, Mac.
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??? Profit Over Everything or Edgar Allen the father of dark and macabre?
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??? Profit Over Everything or Edgar Allen the father of dark and macabre?
Power over Ethernet but I like your ideas better
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:23 AM   #45
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Seems like many of the DIY’ers that don’t fill out their profile are signing up using a phone and not a PC. I bet that if you use a phone to sign up, some of the mandatory questions don’t show up.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:43 AM   #46
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A waiting period before posting, such as 14 or 30 days.
Many of the DIY have a immediate need for an answer.
By making them wait, I would guess they just move on.
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Old 05-27-2018, 01:46 PM   #47
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Ask the new people if you can run 12 gauge to an ac unit off of a 30 amp breaker. The correct answer gets in.
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Ask the new people if you can run 12 gauge to an ac unit off of a 30 amp breaker. The correct answer gets in.
Is the AC unit less then 10' away from the breaker?

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Old 05-27-2018, 02:30 PM   #49
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We should allow DIYer's to join and then just give them a constant stream of nonsensical answers. Not that I have ever done this before.
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We should allow DIYer's to join and then just give them a constant stream of nonsensical answers. Not that I have ever done this before.
well nonsensical answers are coming from this
forum whether or not you're a DIYer
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I’m just concerned that a nonsense answer will be misconstrued as accurate advice and have them act on it. Some of these posters are too dumb to know how little they know.
I just don’t want anything to happen to someone’s kids.
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i think being disrespectful to them gives them a bad image of the people in this industry, probably re-asserting the already bad image they have that's in part driving them to do it themselves in the first place. the more professional all electrical professionals act to people outside of the field the more respect the industry will get (a problem i read a lot of you have noticed on your own), more money we'll make, and the better our jobs will be as a whole.
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i think being disrespectful to them gives them a bad image of the people in this industry, probably re-asserting the already bad image they have that's in part driving them to do it themselves in the first place. the more professional all electrical professionals act to people outside of the field the more respect the industry will get (a problem i read a lot of you have noticed on your own), more money we'll make, and the better our jobs will be as a whole.
No I disagree. Most of these people look down on tradesman and think anyone can do it. Plus they want to save money and come to this site thinking we're suckers.

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No I disagree. Most of these people look down on tradesman and think anyone can do it. Plus they want to save money and come to this site thinking we're suckers.

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i'm not saying to give them the information to do it if you took what i said that way.
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The diy mentality isn’t such a bad thing. I’ll do some basic plumbing at home. I’ll tackle painting if I have to. I was contemplating replacing some siding (Hardie plank), but I don’t want to screw it up. May or may not tackle some stump grinding. May farm that out though. I don’t want it to get to the point where I’m not allowed to do anything at home. I’m thinking about getting some sort of European sports car for my 50th. I want to be able to work on that.
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i'm not saying to give them the information to do it if you took what i said that way.
No I didn't and agree with us acting professional. I found most of my customers awesome that trust me and like my work. I also found most service (troubleshoot) calls are happy when I fix the problem and do it without taking them to the bank. It's the guy who can do it but doesn't have the time guy. The guy who doesn't think you should make that much because he's priced out the materials already. It's the guy who says it should only take this amount of time... that guy.
He looks down on tradesman and thinks well whatever!
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From this day forward, can we pledge to send this video any DIYers who sign up here?


Seriously though, there are some dedicated DIYers who are legitimately interested in performing safe, Code-compliant work...its just that they are "lost in the crowd" comparing the folks we typically see roaming the isles of home centers
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Here, for all you people complaining about free loading DIYer's here.

Your answer to stop this, is to make this site subscription based.

Pay a yearly fee, and you can have an EXCLUSIVE electrician only site.

This way 5 of you can discuss anything you like, without the headache of clicking on and responding to a DIY quote.


Other than that, stop clicking on the posts, stop responding with the stupid azz "fill in your profile" crap. Like no-one is smart enough to post false info on the net.


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