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Old 07-06-2016, 01:35 AM   #21
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Middle east defense contractor work (Fluor, KBR, Halliburton)
I spent a summer in Saudi (Riyadh) with Bechtel in the late 70s. Made $40K in 3 months pulling wire and bending conduit at a time when minimum wage here was a little over $2.50. Worked 16 hrs a day, because there was NOTHING else to do there in the American compound. They warned you that if you left the compound, even back then, you were on your own and might not make it back. So the American compound was like living in Reno or Vegas; hot, dry, dusty, but with no alcohol, no sex, no fun.

A friend did go out to "see the sights" in the city once and got caught up in having to participate in a public stoning (to death) of a woman caught cheating on her husband. Soldiers with machine guns made him pick up a rock and throw it at her and when they didn't think he threw it hard enough, they poked him with their guns until he complied.

Never again... not worth the money. Made me really deeply appreciate the life we lead here in the good ol' US of A. Even the lowest of the lows here have it better than most of the non-Saudi people there. Most of the unskilled workers on our job site were Filipinos and Pakistanis, the Saudi's treated them like garbage and paid them pennies compared to what we got from Bechtel. They lived for years working there with 20+ guys stacked on bunk beds in a 2 room apartment with a single toilet for the entire floor.
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I spent a summer in Saudi (Riyadh) with Bechtel in the late 70s. Made $40K in 3 months pulling wire and bending conduit at a time when minimum wage here was a little over $2.50. Worked 16 hrs a day, because there was NOTHING else to do there in the American compound. They warned you that if you left the compound, even back then, you were on your own and might not make it back. So the American compound was like living in Reno or Vegas; hot, dry, dusty, but with no alcohol, no sex, no fun.

A friend did go out to "see the sights" in the city once and got caught up in having to participate in a public stoning (to death) of a woman caught cheating on her husband. Soldiers with machine guns made him pick up a rock and throw it at her and when they didn't think he threw it hard enough, they poked him with their guns until he complied.

Never again... not worth the money. Made me really deeply appreciate the life we lead here in the good ol' US of A. Even the lowest of the lows here have it better than most of the non-Saudi people there. Most of the unskilled workers on our job site were Filipinos and Pakistanis, the Saudi's treated them like garbage and paid them pennies compared to what we got from Bechtel. They lived for years working there with 20+ guys stacked on bunk beds in a 2 room apartment with a single toilet for the entire floor.
This was a good post.

I spend 6 months in Iraq and it really made me appreciate the everyday freedoms and commodities that we take for granted here in the USA. When people complain about America, it reminds me how many millions (billions!) of people would give everything they had to experience half the freedom we enjoy.
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Seriously, go be a lineman and do helicopter and high tower work and storm jobs. You'll make what you want doing that.
An inside wireman not so much.


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Seriously, go be a lineman and do helicopter and high tower work and storm jobs. You'll make what you want doing that.
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That's true. You don't even have to do the helicopter and high tower work in a year there's a reasonable amount of weather related trouble. And you don't have to sleep in your van.
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Start your own religion.

If you can't do that...

Become a televangelist.

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Start your own religion....The highest pay goes to the best salesmen.
The best salesman can sell anything, but not all of them get to do it TAX FREE!
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The best salesman can sell anything, but not all of them get to do it TAX FREE!
For a small investment of time and a little money for a registration and permits this 'clergy-church' thing could be a real winner. Who is the guy on tv that just upgraded jets from $12mil to $60mil?
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Start your own business.. Really. If you have the drive to go get the work and price yourself appropriately you can and will make good money. Get into small jobs and service calls. Again good money. Don't work for free, do a good job and you should be clearing that 100K and more within a couple of years. Use the write-offs your entitled to. Now go out and make some money...

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I figured I had 3 choices to make some great money.

1) marry a wealthy girl.
2) Win the lottery.
3) start my own business.

1) I married a girl who came from zero money.
2) Im to frugal to play the lottery.
3) This is the path I took. I'm not bragging but a hundred grand year for me is a bad year.. But you have to have employees to make really good money. And it takes time to make it a well oiled machine that you don't have to stress over all the time.

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It's a good living , but i don't have visions of grandeur

There are those that get 'lucky' ,but the majority will work hard achieving any appreciable 'level' in this trade

Emphasis on the 'work' part, as it seems some work harder at avoiding it than doing it.

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I will add that I do 90% industrial work. The competition is much much less in this niche. Some places we don't have to bid against any other contractors.
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I figured I had 3 choices to make some great money.

1) marry a wealthy girl.
2) Win the lottery.
3) start my own business.
I tried that the first time, couldn't handle her negativity. Been divorced from her for years, now she's a wealthy heir with a bunch of race horses...
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I tried that the first time, couldn't handle her negativity. Been divorced from her for years, now she's a wealthy heir with a bunch of race horses...
Damn. Just goes to show, money doesn't buy happiness.
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Damn. Just goes to show, money doesn't buy happiness.
She has so much more now that her parents passed but yeah, it wouldn't help. When I got engaged she offered to buy me a new Harley trike if I stayed single...
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She has so much more now that her parents passed but yeah, it wouldn't help. When I got engaged she offered to buy me a new Harley trike if I stayed single...
If it would have been a street glide I would have taken her up on her offer.
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If it would have been a street glide I would have taken her up on her offer.
I hear ya but I'm actually happily married now.
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Some cool advice and stories. I hadn't really thought of starting over on the wage and experience totem pole as a lineman.. We have a lineman local about 150 miles from me, might have to give them a call on Monday.
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Some cool advice and stories. I hadn't really thought of starting over on the wage and experience totem pole as a lineman.. We have a lineman local about 150 miles from me, might have to give them a call on Monday.
Linemen don't normally get shot at but with the way things are lately there are no guarantees.
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