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Old 03-29-2018, 08:15 AM   #1
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I'm missing out on business. Yesterday I was told by a good GC that either I learn it and do it or he will hire someone else. I am also being asked by other customers.

Where do I start?
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Old 03-29-2018, 08:31 AM   #2
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I'd start here ... http://shop.csa.ca/en/canada/personn...n/invt/2703392

But I think it might just be another 'Cash Cow'
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I think solar work is a nice addition to our trade that will be around for a while. It is a booming industry, that benefits us with work.

Some of the guys that used to laugh at me when I was getting into fiber and networking, well now they wish they did.

I'd go for it. Good Luck.
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Down the road will be replacement /retrofits as the equipment lasts 10yrs from my understanding.
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The ECAA and the Alberta Government have been putting on information sessions that are 3-4 hours long. Check with them to see if there are more sessions going on as its a good starting point. As of now there is no requirement other then being a master electrician to pull permits for it. There is a plan to have mandatory certification for photovoltaics installers but who knows how long that will take so may as well get into it before the hoops are set.
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There are a couple of installer courses available here.
https://www.solarinstallerscanada.co...tion-to-solar/
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I'd start here ... http://shop.csa.ca/en/canada/personn...n/invt/2703392

But I think it might just be another 'Cash Cow'
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Im taking the classes on solar energy internationals site atm, because we plan to install solar on some of the houses hfh is building. Its a good place to start.

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I'm missing out on business. Yesterday I was told by a good GC that either I learn it and do it or he will hire someone else. I am also being asked by other customers.

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I wish Gold was on here. That is about all he does. Find him on Facebook unless they unban him.
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He was on here.... I wish i got to meet him 😕
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I looked at a resi becoming a solar sub.
Talked with different people at different companies about their operation.

They had crews of a lead and 2 installers carrying the glass up, setting the brackets, roof sealing, and laying. The electrician would run that job, do the A/C, D/C, panel upgrade, meet utility, & wait for inspection.
One of the installers would help the electrician pulling wire. Panel upgrades are very common because it now has 2 power sources, with the potential of overloading the bus past the main OCP . Here the utility has us set a 2nd meter, then back feed the panel.

The installers would have a box truck or pick-up with trailer with a full set of roof ladders.
Then an electrical truck stocked with all the needed junk and another set of ladders.
Because materials are moved constantly and it's the roof access, the electrician needs his own ladder to work off of.

These subs have a minimum warehouse and forklift.
While it was ideal to have the materials delivered directly to the job site, sometimes it didn't work with the schedule. More so because being a sub, they didn't have much control of the orders. So instead of using a local supplier that holds it until a scheduled delivery time, they receive the pallets via truck freight from out of state. Need someone waiting for the deliveries with a fork. Because of pricing, the panel orders tend to be full pallets, with you storing the extras a few days until the next one.

Don't under estimate the amount of work physically moving the panels.
Metal framed panels are strong, but can get damaged. Maybe 1 out of a few hundred. Frame-less panels are terrible for installing durability, don't know if they are still selling them.

While it's become common to have rooftop solar, remember this.
If something goes wrong on the DC side, it won't stop burning until the panels are covered or DC circuit is cut. Do a search of solar roof fires.

Those panels act like a sail in the wind. A 30 pound piece of glass will feel like 60 pounds when you fighting the wind.

Resi solar is not for 1 or 2 people out of 1 truck.
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@99cents You might find him at Tradeworksforum link below...

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The Corporate giants have taken over solar....No money in it for the small guy.
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It's interesting, though it hasn't gotten to the point that I need to learn it. The Tesla battery thing combined with the solar is also interesting. I saw the Tesla people set up in Home Depot the other day. One of the few times I would like to have stopped and chatted with sales people there, but didn't want to be a tire kicker. I could see those battery packs down the road taking the place of the generators I install today.
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Can you still PM somebody if they are banned/whatever?
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The Corporate giants have taken over solar....No money in it for the small guy.
You could be right and I would definitely do my homework to determine if that's true.
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That is not true. Gold is a one man shop and hires helpers. I believe he is very busy.
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Are you on Facebok.? if so I will PM his m=name.
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I'm missing out on business. Yesterday I was told by a good GC that either I learn it and do it or he will hire someone else. I am also being asked by other customers.

Where do I start?
Learn about SNOW.

That's where the action is.

There's more money selling, installing de-icing equipment.

It's not even close.

You can't collect solar rays when the panels are packed over with ice and snow.

You can't be everything to every nitwit GC.

Pandering to him? Sheesh.
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