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Old 02-14-2015, 08:47 AM   #1
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Never did this particular one in 37 yrs of electrical work, ... till yesterday...

I had to run some liquid tite metal flex from inside a building attic to outside the building soffit for a light fixture and discovered I had only one straight 1/2'' flex connector , and no 90's in my van. Used the one straight connector outside at the light where it was visible, and used a 1/2'' jake on the other end of the flex......... It works... but my shame is deep..... oh the hackery of it all...........
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Never did this particular one in 37 yrs of electrical work, ... till yesterday...

I had to run some liquid tite metal flex from inside a building attic to outside the building soffit for a light fixture and discovered I had only one straight 1/2'' flex connector , and no 90's in my van. Used the one straight connector outside at the light where it was visible, and used a 1/2'' jake on the other end of the flex......... It works... but my shame is deep..... oh the hackery of it all...........
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "jake"?
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Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "jake"?
The type of flex connector that screws into flexible metal conduit, not the type that grips the outside of the conduit.

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The type of flex connector that screws into flexible metal conduit, not the type that grips the outside of the conduit.

I never heard those called Jakes before. When I saw Jake I thought you were talking about a Jake l.
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I always knew a "jake" as a pulling elbow.

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Never did this particular one in 37 yrs of electrical work, ... till yesterday...

I had to run some liquid tite metal flex from inside a building attic to outside the building soffit for a light fixture and discovered I had only one straight 1/2'' flex connector , and no 90's in my van. Used the one straight connector outside at the light where it was visible, and used a 1/2'' jake on the other end of the flex......... It works... but my shame is deep..... oh the hackery of it all...........
Must have been the helper that used up all your connecters without telling you that you are out of them...











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At least you used a connector on the inside. If concealed in attic it would have ended up without one with me. The NM, YES NM, would have floated right into the carflex.
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Meh.....I certainly wouldn't use any sleep over it. The jake connector will probably outlast us up there in the attic.
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Meh.....I certainly wouldn't use any sleep over it. The jake connector will probably outlast us up there in the attic.
If he attached it to a grounded metal box I don't see anything wrong with it. Yea, I know it's not listed for that use, but the plastic ones that work the same way are only different in that they are plastic (and listed of course, ).
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My thoughts exactly hardworking dude. The listing be damned......if it works and isn't an immediate fire hazard then.......
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Must have been the helper that used up all your connecters without telling you that you are out of them...




Yes , I keep them in a square tupperware box, semi transparent box, I thought I was loaded up, haven't looked in there to check in a while. It wasn't empty, it had a slew of half parts of various sized lfmc connectors, but no complete ones and no assembling parts that could be put together into a compete unit, so... By the way the jake made a good metal to metal connection, this probably would pass a ul bonding test doing what I did, but would not provide a ''liquid tight'' connection. The attic was pretty dry.
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As long as you wrapped it up with copious amounts of black tape, you're okay. Black tape is listed for everything, isn't it?
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So you used a screw in flex connector instead of a listed fitting. I would bet there is a pretty good connection there and if you ran an equipment grounding conductor I don't think you'll go to hell.
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So you used a screw in flex connector instead of a listed fitting. I would bet there is a pretty good connection there and if you ran an equipment grounding conductor I don't think you'll go to hell.
Thank you Lord Dennis, I'm good to go then.....
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The part that stunned me was it had never even occurred to me to try this out before now. Many times I have shot over to an Ace Hardware and paid $6.59 for a $1 part just because it was the proper fitting. I was in a big rush yesterday, no time for that.
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So you used a screw in flex connector instead of a listed fitting. I would bet there is a pretty good connection there and if you ran an equipment grounding conductor I don't think you'll go to hell.
Mac wouldn't last long in hell anyway. Within twenty minutes they would send him back for a refund...
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I'm not going to feel right until I get a pass from Mcclary.........
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Well I ain't McClary but even I would say what you did is no big deal. I have done similar in the past and never worried about it. As long as it's mechanically secure it's good to go IMHO.
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