ponyboy

He probably struggles with the whole Kleenex vs tissue concept as well.


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joebanana

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point is it? I was was backing up what Flyingsod said about Ericksons and tradesmanship. Granted Erickson is a registered trademark. And if you "run conduit all day long" when do you do real electrical work? I can train a monkey to run conduit. "Where do pipe runs usually terminate"? J-boxes, pull boxes, lighting panels, power panels, MCC's, control panels, cabinets, HID's, lots of stuff that doesn't need a Erickson. Ever heard of a meyers hub? You're probably one of those who uses three Ericksons in a run. What kind of "serviceable equipment" are you talking about?

joebanana

What kind of people do you have working for you that can't run conduit all day long? The kind that have to jam Chico in peoples mouths because they can't? How do you know what I know? You don't, so go hire some guy's that cab run conduit. Obviously you can't dazzle them with brilliance, so you resort to the other method.

joebanana

Erickson is a registered trademark, apparently Crouse Hinds isn't licensed to use it.

ponyboy

You are so deep in a hole of your own stupidity I'm surprised you even came back. Everything you've said in this thread has made you out to be at best a weak minded tradesman and at worst an incompetent halfwit and possibly a poor human being. I was impressed though that you were able to refer to your fourth year apprentice study guides to find your list of electrical apparatuses, well done. Now if we could get you to stop saying erickson you might have a chance to turn things around.

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wcord

I know that your ability to insult electricians who can run rigid, is much better than your reading comprehension. A guy who can run rigid, can run emt, or cable also. Running rigid requires the ability to visualize the run and how it goes together. A mistake in rigid is a lot more expensive to fix than just putting an extra set screw coupling in the emt run
My 2nd years, can not only run rigid, but emt, loomex( romex) , AC90 ( guess that's your MC cable), TECK, data, etc etc, AND install the stuff so it is neat and clean looking.
Do you even know the difference between a union and an Erickson, or where you can or cannot use a Meyers hub or an ES hub.
Not everybody spent their time in the trade being a running shoe electrician , wiring houses, like you obviously did. Maybe YOU are the "pretend electrician"

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joebanana

Dude, I'm not here to insult anybody. I've ran more GRC in 40 years of refinery and power plant construction than you have. I've spent weeks straight running 4" GRC in pipe racks 30' in the air, literally miles of it. I've bent 4' sweeps on segment benders way more than you have. I've used almost every type of bender made. Gee, your guys are really talented if they can run EMT AND GRC, and, they can to a clean job too? That's special. Too bad you can't. What makes it "obvious" that I rope houses? I haven't roped a house since 1980. The difference between an Erickson and a union is that plumbers use unions, REAL electricians use Ericksons. You obviously are a pretend electrician.

glen1971

Not to add fuel to the fire, but I was pretty sure I had a link here about unions vs erickson.. And you conceded that Erickson is a registered trademark... Get off that kick... I bet I've installed a handful of ericksons (on one job), but I bet thousands of crouse hinds unions (UNY105SA, 205SA, 605SA, UNL's etc)....

Good on you for running miles of 4" GRC.. I bet it looks top notch - not being an a$$ either, as I'm assuming if you've ran miles of it you are quite good at it... It's not easy work, and has very little forgiveness to error.. Personally I haven't done tons of rigid due to the trend north of the 49th to switch to more and more teck cable... I did opt to post-pone my fourth year school to go to work on a conduit job for 7 months.. Learned a lot there, worked with some great pipe runners and did some decent work..

Everyone gets into their area of expertise and efficiency. Some are great troubleshooters and make a mountain of scrap to do one offset. Some are great piperunners and take forever to figure out a basic control circuit. Some can do a decent job of tray and cable and never know what a pony threader is.. Take pride in your work and do a decent job of it that you can "sign your name" to it...

wcord

Unions are used in explosion proof classed areas and have the designation of UNY
Ericksons are used in non classified areas.
With all of your experience, I would have thought you knew the difference.
Which is the point that you haven't been able to comprehend.

You bad mouthed electricians who have spent many years doing one aspect of the trade. And you claim you aren't here to insult anybody???

So now you know some new terminology.

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Jhellwig

Running 4" conduit isn't impressive and it is only a pain because of the weight and time it takes to hang supports. Using three unions doesn't mean you are bad at running pipe.

The guy that has to correct terminology and brag about what he did 40 years ago needs to get a life. I used to crap in my pants 33 years ago but that doesn't make me an expert of diapers.

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99cents

I learned how to run pipe as an apprentice on industrial jobs but, let me tell you, it's easy to forget. Nowadays, for the amount of pipe I put in, I'm lazy. I make the bend, don't worry about shrink back, and cut to fit. I pay for the pipe so I don't care what ends up in the dumpster .