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Old 05-08-2009, 02:31 PM   #21
 
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I never had much of a problem with heights until the last job I was with a older journeyman who was in a scissor lift me. He asked me, "Ever been in one of these things when they fall over?"

"No, have you?" I replied.

"Oh yeah a few times. They're pretty wild."

I got a chuckle but at the same time did look down to the ground glance and suddenly had a little more respect for the lift.
I am the kind that will rock it back and forth. and then when you want down, i make ya climb down.
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Old 05-08-2009, 08:17 PM   #22
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I have no problem standing on a ladder above 20feet (like climbing to get on a roof) but working on a ladder above 20feet is another story.
I use a linemans belt with a pole strap through the rungs or around the sides of the ladder. That way you can use both hands to work and not really worry about coming off the ladder. If you try it ,Just make sure that you visually see your pole strap is clipped through the dee rings. It will take a few minutes to get used to leaning back on the belt but,for me, it's much more comfortable to work at heights.

One of my guys was afraid of heights when he first started in the trade, after working a while he was climbing 80' towers with no problems.
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I wouldn't worry about the ladder thing. You may have a hard time depending what contractor and type of work they do.
I don't believe in doing any sort of production off of an extension ladder. It's unproductive and dangerous. Especially if a lift will work.
I don't want to be the guy in the shop that is great at extension ladder work. Or great at digging. Or great at lighting retrofits. We have enough guys that are great at those things. So they get sent out to do extension ladder work and I'll get send to do controls. I've made a point to try to be as good as I can at industrial, controls, and troubleshooting. It's worked out good for me so far. And if there isn't an industrial job going, I can do commercial or residential if needed.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:09 AM   #24
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In my 4th or 5th year, I started working for a commercial EC (I was strictly new contruction resi before).

We were on a scissor lift, 15 feet in the air in an underground parking garage. We couldn't quite get to where we needed to, as some warehouse racking parts were in the way.

He kept trying to run up on them square. Then he tried on wheel at a time. OMG! I thought we were going over.

He finally decided to move the racking.

This guy also climbed up into the ceiling of this garage, onto the ductwork, which was held up by the Hilti nails.
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I am the kind that will rock it back and forth. and then when you want down, i make ya climb down.

I'm not sure officer, he was dancing around then jumped out, I guess the screwdriver in his neck was in his hand on the way down.....

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In my 4th or 5th year, I started working for a commercial EC (I was strictly new contruction resi before).

We were on a scissor lift, 15 feet in the air in an underground parking garage. We couldn't quite get to where we needed to, as some warehouse racking parts were in the way.

He kept trying to run up on them square. Then he tried on wheel at a time. OMG! I thought we were going over.

He finally decided to move the racking.

This guy also climbed up into the ceiling of this garage, onto the ductwork, which was held up by the Hilti nails.

I did stupid stunts like that when I was a newbie. I remember climbing up I beam posts to get into the framing in warehouses. I'm just lucky I never fell or got thrown off a job. I have since calmed way down and use the proper tool for the job.
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I personally am afraid of heights but i can handle a lift up to about 30-40 feet. I was on an 80 foot Jlg one day and was pretty freaked out but the guy i worked with was real cool about it. We talked the whole time and before i knew it the job was done and we were booming down. The biggest thing is if the person running the lift is quick with the controlls you wind up getting jerked around way up in the air thats kind of freaky. Extention ladders dont bother me too much i can pretty much handle those.
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Screw that, if your not comfortable its not worth you getting hurt. I personally would go the controls route either way. I only wish I did that earlier on in my carrer. Good luck man.
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I would say don't give up. Admitting to the world that you're are afraid of heights puts you out there with a lot of us. If you do the studying and show your co-workers that you are there to work, they will assist you and eventually you will overcome it. But I never did at Marble Hill...I just strapped in. I would never make a good ironworker.
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I don't like heights. If I have something to hold onto or lean against I'm fine though. Top of an extension ladder, no way. Working in a drop-tile ceiling, no problem.
The first two company's I worked for didn't have a problem with me be not being comfortable with heights. They would just find something else for me to do, no problem. This guy I'm working for now it's another story. He was going out of town (It's just him & I in the company) and he wanted me to hang some ceiling fans in a 12' residential ceiling using the 6' ladder, to stand on the very top rung. I told him no way, get me the 8' ladder to use. After listening to him talk about by how much of a wuss I am and telling me to stay home without pay then, I told him I would contact the Dept. of labor on him, citing that he's putting my safety in danger. That got him to shut-up and he got the 8' ladder out of the shed and put it on the truck for me when we got to his house that afternoon. He knows I don't like heights but he keeps on pushing my buttons on it. I'd much rather have have my old foreman back, who would talk to you like you were a dog but never would make you do anything you were comfortable doing.

I wish the economy would pick up so I could get away from this jackleg but It's a job and I guess I've just got to deal with him for now
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It is inconceivable, to me that a company would ask you to work under those conditions. You know what you are comfortable with and if they won't supply it, and you cannot afford to quit the job, I suppose you would have to bring a ladder you were okay with. Other than that , possibly the DOL.
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I am the kind that will rock it back and forth. and then when you want down, i make ya climb down.
If that's close to the truth, you're a huge a-hole.
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It is inconceivable, to me that a company would ask you to work under those conditions. You know what you are comfortable with and if they won't supply it, and you cannot afford to quit the job, I suppose you would have to bring a ladder you were okay with. Other than that , possibly the DOL.
Yeah, this guys a bit of an A-hole. He's told me several times if I can't deal with it find another job. I do think before it's all over with I'll end up filling a complaint to the D.O.L about him. I think part of his problem is he's tired of doing the work, running a business and doing field work at the same time. I've already been told if he finds a good maintenance job, that I'll be out of a job. No "I'll see what I can do about getting you on also" just a "Sorry but F-you, your out of a job" and I've known this dude for over 11 years. Only reason why I went to work for him was because I was friends with him and thought the job would be pretty easy going and I could learn more about the business aspect of the trade, which hasn't happened although I've asked him several times to show me how to do take-offs, estimates, quotes, etc,etc. "Figure it out on your own" is all he tells me.
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Yeah, this guys a bit of an A-hole. He's told me several times if I can't deal with it find another job. I do think before it's all over with I'll end up filling a complaint to the D.O.L about him. I think part of his problem is he's tired of doing the work, running a business and doing field work at the same time. I've already been told if he finds a good maintenance job, that I'll be out of a job. No "I'll see what I can do about getting you on also" just a "Sorry but F-you, your out of a job" and I've known this dude for over 11 years. Only reason why I went to work for him was because I was friends with him and thought the job would be pretty easy going and I could learn more about the business aspect of the trade, which hasn't happened although I've asked him several times to show me how to do take-offs, estimates, quotes, etc,etc. "Figure it out on your own" is all he tells me.
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Yeah, this guys a bit of an A-hole. He's told me several times if I can't deal with it find another job. I do think before it's all over with I'll end up filling a complaint to the D.O.L about him. I think part of his problem is he's tired of doing the work, running a business and doing field work at the same time. I've already been told if he finds a good maintenance job, that I'll be out of a job. No "I'll see what I can do about getting you on also" just a "Sorry but F-you, your out of a job" and I've known this dude for over 11 years. Only reason why I went to work for him was because I was friends with him and thought the job would be pretty easy going and I could learn more about the business aspect of the trade, which hasn't happened although I've asked him several times to show me how to do take-offs, estimates, quotes, etc,etc. "Figure it out on your own" is all he tells me.
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I think more guys have fear of extension ladders than height. I will climb a three section ladder up to a roof but wouldnt wanna work off it leaning on a wall. Lifts an buckets dont bother me. I hate using an extension on the side of trusses in a warehouse or hanger cause they dont have a lift on the job.
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I never had much of a problem with heights until the last job I was with a older journeyman who was in a scissor lift me. He asked me, "Ever been in one of these things when they fall over?"

"No, have you?" I replied.

"Oh yeah a few times. They're pretty wild."

I got a chuckle but at the same time did look down to the ground glance and suddenly had a little more respect for the lift.
The old timer was just blowing smoke up your ass. If he had ever tipped one over he would not be making light of such a deadly scenario.

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I am the kind that will rock it back and forth. and then when you want down, i make ya climb down.
No. You would climb down then my foot goes into your ass. Some people are idiots. Does your mother admit she gave birth to you? You are just plain stupid. You would be out of work too, if you pulled that crap on any job I have ever been on.

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In my 4th or 5th year, I started working for a commercial EC (I was strictly new contruction resi before).

We were on a scissor lift, 15 feet in the air in an underground parking garage. We couldn't quite get to where we needed to, as some warehouse racking parts were in the way.

He kept trying to run up on them square. Then he tried on wheel at a time. OMG! I thought we were going over.

He finally decided to move the racking.

This guy also climbed up into the ceiling of this garage, onto the ductwork, which was held up by the Hilti nails.
He was taking a big chance. I know you want to get the job done, but jeez. Find a safe way every time. They don't pay you to kill yourself. Some guys just like to show off. These are the dangerous ones.

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I'm not sure officer, he was dancing around then jumped out, I guess the screwdriver in his neck was in his hand on the way down.....

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I don't like heights. If I have something to hold onto or lean against I'm fine though. Top of an extension ladder, no way. Working in a drop-tile ceiling, no problem.
The first two company's I worked for didn't have a problem with me be not being comfortable with heights. They would just find something else for me to do, no problem. This guy I'm working for now it's another story. He was going out of town (It's just him & I in the company) and he wanted me to hang some ceiling fans in a 12' residential ceiling using the 6' ladder, to stand on the very top rung. I told him no way, get me the 8' ladder to use. After listening to him talk about by how much of a wuss I am and telling me to stay home without pay then, I told him I would contact the Dept. of labor on him, citing that he's putting my safety in danger. That got him to shut-up and he got the 8' ladder out of the shed and put it on the truck for me when we got to his house that afternoon. He knows I don't like heights but he keeps on pushing my buttons on it. I'd much rather have have my old foreman back, who would talk to you like you were a dog but never would make you do anything you were comfortable doing.

I wish the economy would pick up so I could get away from this jackleg but It's a job and I guess I've just got to deal with him for now
Yes, It is to bad the economy is so bad. keep looking for another job. This one is taking you no where.

I worked for the state of Florida several/many years ago and we had to keep the telemetry towers lit up. It was a 300' - 350' climb. Granted you were inside the cage all the way up and one way hooked. But I always hated to go up there. It was a half day per tower. I could never do it today even if I was in good shape.

Is the OP possibly talking about A-Frames. That is one ladder I would lose my job over. They should be against the law if they are not already.
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We choose to be electricians.

Sometimes it's underground, sometimes it's overhead. Once in a while it's right in front of you and you don't even have to bend over.


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