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Old 09-21-2016, 03:44 PM   #1
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Default LED slims in existing ceiling do you install a boot

Walked into a home today and had to change one of these slim led panels. I pull it down and get covered in blown in insulation. When I quote for these in an attic I always install a vapor barrier. I can see someone getting away with no boot for an ic retrofit potlight can but seriously an led panel?
I know led panels are ic rated but what about caring about the next guy who has to replace one.
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That installer had no care! Even if they don't know about doing it, they didn't care enough to figure something diy out for the next person.

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I don't use them in insulated ceilings. I did one Lotus job where I Tuck Taped the vapour barrier and slid the driver between the drywall and VB. It's easier to use normal cans in an insulated ceiling.
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I don't use them in insulated ceilings. I did one Lotus job where I Tuck Taped the vapour barrier and slid the driver between the drywall and VB. It's easier to use normal cans in an insulated ceiling.
This sounds like it would work too. What would you do if you had to install under a joist though?
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I have never installed a vapor barrier for recessed lighting. Enough other things to worry about. If it is IC rated, in she goes!
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Walked into a home today and had to change one of these slim led panels. I pull it down and get covered in blown in insulation. When I quote for these in an attic I always install a vapor barrier. I can see someone getting away with no boot for an ic retrofit potlight can but seriously an led panel?
I know led panels are ic rated but what about caring about the next guy who has to replace one.
I put them in without a boot. Last one I did there was no real VB, just
paper wrapped fiberglass batts.
Did you manage to pull down the slim led's without taking chunks
out of the drywall? Once those springs snap on the back of the drywall
they don't want to let go. In fact, I usually*go into the attic, move the
insulation, and release the springs from up there.
* OK, only had to do this once.
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I have never installed a vapor barrier for recessed lighting. Enough other things to worry about. If it is IC rated, in she goes!
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That's the way it is down here. Most "vapor barriers" are just craft paper that is attached to the fiberglass insulation and stapled to the studs or joists. It's not air sealed.
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I put them in without a boot. Last one I did there was no real VB, just
paper wrapped fiberglass batts.
Did you manage to pull down the slim led's without taking chunks
out of the drywall? Once those springs snap on the back of the drywall
they don't want to let go. In fact, I usually*go into the attic, move the
insulation, and release the springs from up there.
* OK, only had to do this once.
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Your hole should be a little oversized so you have some wiggle room.
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I have never installed a vapor barrier for recessed lighting. Enough other things to worry about. If it is IC rated, in she goes!
Local code here for cans.
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This sounds like it would work too. What would you do if you had to install under a joist though?
It was a little tight in some locations. I wouldn't do it again.
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If you are happy with it, the 9.0 battery would probably be great for you.
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Back to the original post - Lotus would hit a home run if they had a remote driver that would do multiple fixtures. LVT poked through the vapour barrier would be no big deal.
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