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Old 10-16-2017, 09:14 AM   #1
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Has anyone been having problems with w/p gfci's burning up. In the past 6 months I have had two Leviton GFWT1's 15a weather proof gfci's installed with an in-use covers on the exterior of homes completely burn up, damaging the wiring, box and in-use cover. Both of these gfci's were in areas that they have had little to no load on them. Leviton blamed moisture getting in the box on the first one and then disposed of the receptacle. I have not sent the second one back to them yet. I personally find it hard to believe that a gfci that is subject to moisture would completely burn up, but I am looking for other professional opinions outside of the Leviton family.
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I installed this outlet last Summer and it burnt up this Summer. The wires weren't affected though. I replaced it after a night of rain and there was absolutely no moisture in the box or under the cover.


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Has anyone been having problems with w/p gfci's burning up. In the past 6 months I have had two Leviton GFWT1's 15a weather proof gfci's installed with an in-use covers on the exterior of homes completely burn up, damaging the wiring, box and in-use cover. Both of these gfci's were in areas that they have had little to no load on them. Leviton blamed moisture getting in the box on the first one and then disposed of the receptacle. I have not sent the second one back to them yet. I personally find it hard to believe that a gfci that is subject to moisture would completely burn up, but I am looking for other professional opinions outside of the Leviton family.
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Just because it has an in-use cover does NOT mean that the customer// user properly used it.

Think about it.

Dollars to doughnuts they simply left the cover hinged UP.

Then you're left running around trying to make sense out of their lies.

You're not being called out to expose their abuse -- but to get a free replacement.

Of course, the damage should be expected to be in the lower position.
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Has anyone been having problems with w/p gfci's burning up. In the past 6 months I have had two Leviton GFWT1's 15a weather proof gfci's installed with an in-use covers on the exterior of homes completely burn up, damaging the wiring, box and in-use cover. Both of these gfci's were in areas that they have had little to no load on them. Leviton blamed moisture getting in the box on the first one and then disposed of the receptacle. I have not sent the second one back to them yet. I personally find it hard to believe that a gfci that is subject to moisture would completely burn up, but I am looking for other professional opinions outside of the Leviton family.
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Quinn, just curious, how did it completely damage the box and cover? I personally haven't seen this due to moisture.

Little or no load, you say? I'm going to suspect user error at this point.
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We have had several Leviton GFCIs fail on us and no longer install or stock them.
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I installed this outlet last Summer and it burnt up this Summer. The wires weren't affected though. I replaced it after a night of rain and there was absolutely no moisture in the box or under the cover.


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The pic Hack has looks more like the result of a loose, worn, defective cord cap on the hot terminal that was plugged in. Plugged in with a good load bad connections will heat up.

Perhaps the safety shutters take away from the contact area.

Haven't seen a total melt down that damaged everything like the OP is describing. Loose screw connections with a heavy load? Was it protected with those new fangled CB that are to prevent arkfaults?

For bubble covers I install them so by default they want to close with the hinge on top. I see many installed with the hinge on the side, which is easier to plug in something IMO. But it dosen't seem like the designed way to install. What do I know, one day I'll read the instructions.
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I have seen every brand of GFCI receptacle fail catastrophically at some point or another. I really do like Leviton devices. They're my preference choice. I can't say that I have seen a failure rate from them any more than any other brand.
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Just because it has an in-use cover does NOT mean that the customer// user properly used it.

Think about it.

Dollars to doughnuts they simply left the cover hinged UP.

Then you're left running around trying to make sense out of their lies.

You're not being called out to expose their abuse -- but to get a free replacement.

Of course, the damage should be expected to be in the lower position.
I don't believe it was improper use. Little to no load, I say this because the first one was a dedicated circuit for future landscape lighting on a single family home, which was only found because the in-use cover was blacked out due to smoke damage. The second one is an A/C service receptacle on a new multi family condo building which was installed after the A/C units were set so not likely to be used for anything else. When I say burned up I mean the entire back of the gfci burned through.
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I installed this outlet last Summer and it burnt up this Summer. The wires weren't affected though. I replaced it after a night of rain and there was absolutely no moisture in the box or under the cover.


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I will try to get a picture the back of the gfci is completely burn up, yours looks good compared to it.
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My goodness, there sure seems to be re-ocurring threads regarding how bad Leviton GFI's are. This time I didn't even put in a post till now.



What's up Leviton? Soros shorting you?
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If the GFI is part of a multi-wire branch circuit and the neutral is open, there could be elevated voltage on the GFI. This would cause a meltdown of the electronics inside it.
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I installed this outlet last Summer and it burnt up this Summer. The wires weren't affected though. I replaced it after a night of rain and there was absolutely no moisture in the box or under the cover.


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Is that weather resistant? Usually they have WR on them.

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Is that weather resistant? Usually they have WR on them.

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Weather resistant GFCIs eat into my profit.
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Weather resistant GFCIs eat into my profit.
Lol. I just pass the cost on.

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So do I.


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Some things even I won't do, like installing non-WR devices outside.
It's in a weather resistant box.
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I installed this outlet last Summer and it burnt up this Summer. The wires weren't affected though. I replaced it after a night of rain and there was absolutely no moisture in the box or under the cover.


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Was it located in direct sunlight?

I have one that keeps tripping. Last time I went there the cover was discolored. Im guessing the heat from the sun is causing it to trip or causing condensation inside causing it to trip. Its in direct sunlight all through the day.
It is wr rated

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Weather resistant GFCIs eat into my profit.
Sounds like you donít charge enough.
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