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Old 08-16-2013, 07:19 PM   #1
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Default license & exams: "residential/single-phase" v "journeyman"

In my city, Rochester NY, there are two types of license, with Thompson Prometric exams administered by the City: "Masters," and "Single-Phase," sometimes referred to as "Residential." I'm applying for the Single Phase. The test prep universe seems to be organized around "Master" and "Journeyman." I would be grateful for any thoughts on prep for a Single Phase exam, and the difference between that and a Journeyman exam. THANKS.

[background: I'm not quite a newbie. I had a 1-ph license some years ago, and let it lapse when I changed careers -- stupidly, at a moment when I had a better use for $20. Thanks to the recession, the job market, and the job market for people in their 50s, I'm back in the old trade, updating skills and needing that license.]
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:38 PM   #2
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I don't know what a "single-phase" license allows you to do. I presume residential and light commercial, because that's generally the only single-phase out there.

If you have the option, go for the higher caliber license. Doesn't make any sense not to, in my opinion.

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I wonder what happens when there is a house with a 3 phase service there.
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:12 AM   #4
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3-ph houses are pretty rare, and would require the masters license.
To APPLY for the masters requires 3000 more of hours of employee experience.
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Hey mike, i am a journeyman,3 phs guy i guess. i have done some residential panels and doing more residential here in the midwest IA/IL. a friend ask me to stop over and that his wife got shocked touching the garage(metal siding) and hand pulling a weed.. i could not duplicate this but the neutral has 6-10 v to known ground..FPE Stab Lok panel. Total fire hazard i will be changing that. i killd the 200a main, i have continuity from each ph to neu. open between phases( a good thing) so i run up and down each side of panel and have brear to neu continuity. One of them made my fluke ring and I could hear music thru the meter. At this point the neu is the only thing connected to the grid. Ever heard of anything like this
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Nice, so Rochester basically regulates licensure degrading resi electrical workers to romex jocky .....what do they require for inspections? Elves from Oz?
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jwjim: one of my personal rules for troubleshooting, developed over a number of years (#3, probably) is, when you find a clear, obvious problem, don't keep troubleshooting. Stop and fix the problem. Then, go back to the troubleshooting. In this case, the obvious problem would be the FPE panel.

chicken: I'm not sure I understand your point, though the picture, and resemblance to inspectors I've met, is funny.
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To make things even less clear, the Prometric "admit letter" tells me I'll be taking the "Master Residential Electrical" exam, code 20313. "Master" and "Residential" in the same sentence seems to suggest some kind of hybrid. They offer no additional information, or practice tests etc, on their website.
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To make things even less clear, the Prometric "admit letter" tells me I'll be taking the "Master Residential Electrical" exam, code 20313. "Master" and "Residential" in the same sentence seems to suggest some kind of hybrid. They offer no additional information, or practice tests etc, on their website.
Just take these practice exams here

What have you been doing for 1.5 years?
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