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Old 09-28-2016, 10:00 PM   #1
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I ran across an old panel that I hadn't seen before. The panel was a
"Frank Adams" panel. It was a 200A panel that had 200A fuses for the main and the branch circuits were protected by breakers.

This was found when I was following up on a HI report. The inspector has my customer worried because the panel is obsolete. He's telling them if a breaker goes out the whole panel would need replacing.

I have the Eaton replacement breaker chart but don't see "Frank Adams" listed there.
Does anyone know what breaker is listed for replacement in this panel?
Who made the "Frank Adams" panel?
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Did you get any pictures?
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Did you get any pictures?
No, I was just there to talk to the customer and letting him show me what he wants checked. I will be back there next week to do the inspection/repair. I just wanted to know options should I find problems or if he asks again about if he should replace the panel.
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I wouldn't offer anything other than a new panel but...

did you see this?

http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=116524
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http://www.electriciantalk.com/f24/frank-adams-34214/
http://www.relectric.com/Catalog/cir...s/FRANK--ADAMS

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http://www.circuitbreakers-e.com/frank_adams.html

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I wouldn't offer anything other than a new panel but...

did you see this?

http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=116524
I did right after I posted here and before I checked for replies!
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I'd also love having a fa panel in my garage! Betchya those weren't cheap!
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Apparently the precursor to Zinsco.

https://www.nachi.org/forum/f19/zinsco-history-11816/
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Apparently the precursor to Zinsco.

https://www.nachi.org/forum/f19/zinsco-history-11816/
Oh top quality merchandise.
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Those z boards are neat too!!!
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We had them all over at my old job, never did find a new equivalent our breakers looked like light switches southland electrical here in nc had a few breakers the rare times that we needed them they specialize in those kind of things but those breakers really don't preform as well as modern breaters and buying two twenty amps would pay for the whole panel replacement cost. We had a few breakers that would trip for over amperage but I never did get to test their Short out response time
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We had them all over at my old job, never did find a new equivalent our breakers looked like light switches southland electrical here in nc had a few breakers the rare times that we needed them they specialize in those kind of things but those breakers really don't preform as well as modern breaters and buying two twenty amps would pay for the whole panel replacement cost. We had a few breakers that would trip for over amperage but I never did get to test their Short out response time
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No, I was just there to talk to the customer and letting him show me what he wants checked. I will be back there next week to do the inspection/repair. I just wanted to know options should I find problems or if he asks again about if he should replace the panel.
Finally got back to the job and snapped a few pics.













You might be able to see there is some Siemens breakers in there.
Some more may or may not have been added!
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Looks like ite breakers...... Also looks exactly like an old 200 qo panel I worked in recently.
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I have seen Frank Adam in old phone company buildings but I cannot remember if they were in AC or 48VDC service.

I also have some mid 70's Westinghouse Ampguard 5KV starters .The fuse pullouts in the test cabinets are Frank Adam .

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Can't provide the pics from mine sadly, they were at my old job which I have since departed
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I also have some early 90's Westinghouse VCPW gear with Wadsworth pullouts for the trip and close fuses .

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I ran across an old panel that I hadn't seen before. The panel was a
"Frank Adams" panel. It was a 200A panel that had 200A fuses for the main and the branch circuits were protected by breakers.

This was found when I was following up on a HI report. The inspector has my customer worried because the panel is obsolete. He's telling them if a breaker goes out the whole panel would need replacing.

I have the Eaton replacement breaker chart but don't see "Frank Adams" listed there.
Does anyone know what breaker is listed for replacement in this panel?
Who made the "Frank Adams" panel?
Its been there for 50 years and hasn't had a problem. Leave it alone!
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