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Old 02-06-2015, 06:27 PM   #1
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I've been an eletrician's helper going on a year now for 2 different Companies .

all the time I see guys come in talking about how they are machanics and want $ 18 /hour but cant read a simple floor plan or they are not creative enough in tricky situations ... they never last long / sometimes it seems like the foreman watches them extra hard but the fake guys never last.

O Community My question is what are the essential skills and qualifications that make you a machanic ? because I know guys who say they've been in the trade for 5years and gets paid what I get ( Helper wage)
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Old 02-06-2015, 06:32 PM   #2
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MY Job status line up Is something like this :
electrician Helper
Apprentice
jr. Machanic
Machanic
foreman
project manager
Etc
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I've been an eletrician's helper going on a year now for 2 different Companies .

all the time I see guys come in talking about how they are machanics and want $ 18 /hour but cant read a simple floor plan or they are not creative enough in tricky situations ... they never last long / sometimes it seems like the foreman watches them extra hard but the fake guys never last.

O Community My question is what are the essential skills and qualifications that make you a machanic ? because I know guys who say they've been in the trade for 5years and gets paid what I get ( Helper wage)
machanics?
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Old 02-06-2015, 06:33 PM   #4
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To be a good mechanic, I would say be ASE certified. Know foreign and domestic vehicles inside and out. Know what a metric wrench is and how to use it.
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LOL im not in the union so I guess a Machanic to us would be like a 5th year /journey man to IBEW
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residential mechanic for example - read prints, deal with homeowner/gc, rough/finish house, do rewires, service, generator, troubleshoot, and pretty much anything dealing with homes without supervision.
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Only time I've ever heard of am electrician being referred to as a mechanic is one who normally does service call / troubleshooting calls. It's not an official title.

To me, the ascension is:

Helper / grunt / beeotch
Apprentice
JW
Master

Anything other than that is job- or company-specific.
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Only time I've ever heard of am electrician being referred to as a mechanic is one who normally does service call / troubleshooting calls. It's not an official title.

To me, the ascension is:

Helper / grunt / beeotch
Apprentice
JW
Master

Anything other than that is job- or company-specific.
sheesh You just referred to me as a beeotch
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machanics?

Maybe you get better money if you can spell better ?

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OMG ! thanks maybe Your right
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And even more money when you use proper capitalization and puctuation.
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Maybe you get better money if you can spell better ?

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And even more money when you use proper capitalization and puctuation.


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Very helpful you guys are the best
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I'm sorry , but this is just not a meritocracy

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You just don't know us well enough yet, HWD. Stick around for awhile and you will see the real us


As to your original question.....I knew where you were going with the mechanics term and don't agree with a journeyperson electrician being labeled as such but, I personally hate when people claim experience with tasks that they simply do NOT have.
You can however take some solace in the fact that the lies will soon catch up with the vast majority of those types.
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LOL im not in the union so I guess a Machanic to us would be like a 5th year /journey man to IBEW
If you're nonunion, and there is no prevalent, recognized and established nonunion apprenticeship program in your area, then I have to imagine the classification of any worker is entirely up to the employer.

If you were a 3rd year apprentice in the IBEW, you'd have a card indicating that, which you couldn't have if you didn't have the time/hours in and passed the advancement tests. Still, that doesn't mean a 3rd year is going to be adept at installing conduit, or complex circuitry, because the field training and experience is really where it's at, and every apprentice working for different contractors on different job sites is developing their skillsets differently.
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Off topic a little I see most the guys that been around bend pipe... When I first started out I thought it was a lot of measuring... I mean I've only bent half inch but it seems like when it comes to like 2 1/2 and up its like they just put the pieces to the puzzle... A 90 here an off set there simple but that's what they get the big bucks for. I can do that smh
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