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Old 08-26-2016, 07:58 AM   #21
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Do you use an Excel template?
I made up a simple template in the word processing program in Open Office, I just put it under my company letterhead. I adjust the size when printing so that it will fit on the panel door.

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How do you match it up with the panel slots?
I don't. The breakers are numbered so I just attach the panel schedule to the door.
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Old 08-26-2016, 08:03 AM   #22
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The number thing gets a little confusing if I mount the panel upside down. Sideways, it's okay .
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I hate label makers. I prefer to make labels with label stock, you fill out a spreadsheet template, print it from your computer, and away you go. You can make a whole page at a time, or just one label. It's a much better way to work. If you absolutely have to make labels one at a time on the job, and you won't know what you're labeling until you're up there, it won't work out, but that's almost never the case.
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That depends on what kind of work you do. It's almost always the case for me since I rarely even know what the job really is until I get there.

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Any Brother P-Touch that uses TZ tapes.

Tapes are laminated and last forever. You can get flexible tape to put on cables. You can get high-strength tape. You can get tape from 1/4" to 1"+ wide. Tape backing is split so it's easy to remove. Replacement tape on Amazon is almost 1/2 the price it is at Staples and such.

A Sharpie is fine for quick corrections and additions to an existing crappy directory. For a new panel nothing beats a label maker.
No! It's not fine at all. Pencil only in a panel directory please. At least in an industrial setting. Grrrr

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When a panel schedule needs to be neat, I like to print it out with my company logo and info at the top. I find it a little easier to type it all up at home and print it out, but it requires a return trip to the job.
I will agree there. Some panels, like new installs, I like to use a full page directory with a sheet protector. I was more referring to a panel swap with the label maker.
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No! It's not fine at all. Pencil only in a panel directory please. At least in an industrial setting. Grrrr

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Tip of the day.

Those blank address labels that come on a sheet of paper ready to be printed on are the perfect size to cover over a space on the panel schedule when you need to change or correct something.
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Being you and I live in the same city I'd caution against Rhino....nothing wrong with the labler......just that all the supply houses dropped it so cartridges are a little like hen's teeth. I forget the brand Westburne and the likes are carrying, Eecol stocks K-sun. I'd base my purchasing decision on availability of cartridges...in the format I use (heat shrink, black on clear, black on white etc), and......must have QWERTY keyboard.
I get mine from Eecol or from http://neumannmarking.com/products/ as they have good stock selection and fast delivery.
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Thank you, I thought was going nuts. I searched through every menu option, trying each & every margin & cut option, but to no avail.

It's ridiculous the waste on every label you print. After labeling up a data cabinet there's a blizzard of wasted tape at your feet. Great printer, but jeez the waste of tape

I must check out the 3m printer you suggested
On the P touch it is the CODE (red) + TAPE buttons, the XXXX is the number of blanks to print after each label. Use no X's then when you finish printing Press CODE + SPACE to Feed out to end of cutter. NO waste.
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The Rhino doesn't like falling on the ground or being cold.
Our first Rhino, stripped the gears when 1 of the guys didn't let it warm up when he brought it in from the van (only -20c)
Another one fell, maybe 4 feet and the cutter stopped working.
The Brady is cheap enough and seems to be a bit more robust( not as many printing options as the Rhino)
For panel directories, an Excel program and card stock works very well
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I'm looking for a labeler as well. Thought I would post this though to help everyone out with panel directories.
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Ill give that a try just the cowboy thanks
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I had the one that used the TZ tapes and it printed just fine. Second the wasted tape, never bothered to figure out how to change it. Carried scissors. It got dropped too many times. I bought a 3m. Easy enough to use but the print quality isn't as good as the brother and the tapes are lousy. Maybe a suggestion from someone for a different model of tape. Really only need white with black lettering. Sometimes clear with black lettering.
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I'm going to try the Brother. It's an investment of about fifty bucks for the printer and a cartridge. I've spent fifty bucks on worse things. It's for low usage anyway and I just want my work to look a little more professional than a Sharpie.
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Fwiw the brady bmp's have a bunch of built in templates designed specifically for electricians. Just my opinion but the template for panel schedules that run along side the breakers looks way more professional than ones printed from a desk top. Plus you can get cartridges that make self laminating wire markers and the only thing more professional than that is printed shrink wrap wire markers..imo of course.

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I don't have to make a whole lot of labels. The Brother was fine when I had it, but being the tool fool that I am, I bought something fancier. I'll talk to the 3m guy at the Rexel show. Think I did last year too, but forgot to follow up.
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I'm going to try the Brother. It's an investment of about fifty bucks for the printer and a cartridge. I've spent fifty bucks on worse things. It's for low usage anyway and I just want my work to look a little more professional than a Sharpie.
They have a cable marker that is flexable and works great also.

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I like the Brother P-Touch because it's dirt cheap and really simple. We really only use them to label receptacles and other small equipment. I always print full page panel directories.

As to the wasted tape, if I'm making several labels, I enter as many as I can until the screen is full, with TWO SPACES in between each one. Then it prints out a big long strip, and I use scissors or dykes to cut them up. Then you only get that wasted inch at each end. Saves tons of tape.
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I like the Brother P-Touch because it's dirt cheap and really simple. We really only use them to label receptacles and other small equipment. I always print full page panel directories.

As to the wasted tape, if I'm making several labels, I enter as many as I can until the screen is full, with TWO SPACES in between each one. Then it prints out a big long strip, and I use scissors or dykes to cut them up. Then you only get that wasted inch at each end. Saves tons of tape.
I use them too for the same reasons. When I started paying for them and the tape myself I got frugal.
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I have a 3m label maker. I can't remember the name but it will print some electrical symbols. It. Uses 1/2" or 3/4" tape.
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