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Old 06-01-2019, 03:35 PM   #1
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Hey everyone, new here first post made an account after not being able to figure out this Macromatic TR-60622 true off-delay relay. Truth be told I've never done a true off-delay switch before and I am having some problems with the wiring. So the general idea is there is a parking garage that has a gated door that opens and when it opens it turns on all the lights for the entire garage and when it closes all the lights shut off immediately. My client wants to have the lights stay on for an additional 5 minutes after the gate closes. All the wires have proper voltage and there are no issues other than I can't figure out the proper way to wire the relay. Basically, I have 4 wires coming into my jbox that I have wired into this off delay relay.

They are:
Wire A - Feed wire (always hot 120v)
Wire B - Neutral wire
Wire C - Switch wire for lights
Wire D - Hot wire only when the gate is open

Currently, I have:
Wire A in #1
Wire B in #7
Wire C in #8
Wide D in #2

That results in the lights being on all the time. I think I might be able to figure it out with some more testing/swapping around but I don't want to short it out and have to buy a new one. Any help with which wire goes into which terminal #1-#8 would be great.


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Old 06-01-2019, 07:13 PM   #2
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Try moving wire C to terminal 3

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I tried that, lights are still always on
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switched hot from the light C to #2, the coil L1
neutral B on 7
constant hot source A on the common of the contacts 1
gate open hot D on the NO of the contacts 3
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switched hot from the light C to #2, the coil L1
neutral B on 7
constant hot source A on the common of the contacts 1
gate open hot D on the NO of the contacts 3
tried that, fried the relay. Time to order a new one
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print show it wired as

Wire A - Feed wire (always hot 120v)
Wire B - Neutral wire
Wire C - Switch wire for lights
Wire D - Hot wire only when the gate is open


Wire A in #1 (common wire n/o to 3 or n/c to 4)
Wire B in #7
Wire C in #8 (should be 3 which is the N/O contact related to pin 1)
Wide D in #2 (activation hot and N are either or on pins 2 and 7)

Now here's the problem. If you landed 110v feed wire on pin 1 and the feed to the light on pin 8 the light should never have come on as they are isolated relays.

(the numbers are on the relay base but they are very hard to see unless you have a very bright light)

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tried that, fried the relay. Time to order a new one
You f**ked something up then !! (Unless the TDO is actually a 24V relay)

Sounds like your in way over your head. Are you a new apprentice ? Maybe get the boss out there.


It's one thing to get the control right ... it's another when you don't even know how to power up the coil
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You f**ked something up then !! (Unless the TDO is actually a 24V relay)

Sounds like your in way over your head. Are you a new apprentice ? Maybe get the boss out there.


It's one thing to get the control right ... it's another when you don't even know how to power up the coil
He wired it up and it didn't work so he came for advice. Not the first person to find magic smoke following the diagram.

If i had to guess he wired the relay base upside down because he has one of the cheap all grey ones where you can hardly see the numbers on a good day. Smoke was probably a relay saying goodbye (good thing they put 2 in there so maybe the other one still works)
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Not the first person to find magic smoke following the diagram.
Cheap grey base aside ... he didn't have the coil powered up as per his description on his OP. The diagram was quite clear

Either a junior apprentice or a DIYer. His post count is up, but mostly "hi welcome to ET" chit

I'm a Canuck, maybe US electricians can get licensed without knowing anything about a coil.... If that's the case ... Flame me !

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