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Old 03-09-2018, 08:58 AM   #1
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The simpler the better. Mac or Android. Thanks.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:57 AM   #2
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What kinda As-Builts? For panels directories, PLC line diagrams, Junction Boxes, Motor Control and even single lines I've been using plain old Excel for years. Changes after the fact become real easy too..
Lots of people ask why and why not use a multitude of drafting programs.. My answer is that not everyone has every drafting program but I can bet that darn near everyone has Excel.
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Just small commercial jobs - lights, receptacles, etc.
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Just small commercial jobs - lights, receptacles, etc.
Ahh.. Like marking out layout changes or circuit numbers on those drawings?
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Ahh.. Like marking out layout changes or circuit numbers on those drawings?
You got it, Glen
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Any PDF program like Adobe can do what you want, or Photoshop.

You just want a printable PDF you can make symbols for and move around, right?

For your own use...?
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What ever happened to the "drafting table"?
I know, it's now an iphone app.
But it's difficult to erase Sharpie from the screen.
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What ever happened to the "drafting table"?

Stiil use the table . There are some arc lines I can't figure out how to make in adobe, and some symbols I'd rather make on the print by hand. So I print out what I got, and sometimes draw in the rest.
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I know, i could draw these out by hand easy. Maybe that's the best thing .
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I know, i could draw these out by hand easy. Maybe that's the best thing .
Bluebeam Revu has a MacOS version, it's pretty nice to use, it's a lot cheaper than AutoCAD or etc. at $349.00 USD. It's nice for estimating from PDFs and it can edit and do as-builts. I'd say it's a lot better choice than Photoshop or Acrobat.

For simple drawing, the draw.io site that @macmikeman recommended is not bad and it's web based so you can do it from MacOS or Android.

But in many cases I have found this is by far the fastest:

* Print out customer / architect supplied PDF print
* Mark up on paper
* Scan, print copies from electronic
* File marked up paper (at least for a while)

I have access to large format printers and scanners so I can do this at full Arch D or E size at minimal cost. I'd find it impossible with 8.5"x11" and barely doable with 11"x17". There are nice 11"x17" printers available or home use are reasonable prices now. (Only $219.00 USD at Staples right now...)
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Do you get a drawing before you start in .PDF?
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I have an old version that I bought on a CD years ago, but now they allow you to use it on-line (cloud based) for a $10 monthly fee, and you can sign up, use it for a month, then cancel for 6 and reinstate it when you need it again. That way you can cost it out for each job as you need it.

If you have a PDF drawing, it can import it and you can make changes (additions) to it.

The output can be simple PDFs or if someone insists in CAD format, you can change to DXF or DWG format.

7 day free trial too, so long as you give them your email address or have a Google account.
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