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Old 12-10-2018, 06:22 AM   #61
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I screwed one of these into the back of the box and then pinched (broke) off the excess on the outside of the box with my channel locks so it fit flush to the building.

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Old 12-10-2018, 06:27 AM   #62
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Not at all what I was thinking off. Might be Heyco. I know it starts with an H.
I found their web site, I didn't find it but they have a LOT of bushings grommets etc.

Do you remember if it's less than $2? Because that's going to be a deal breaker.
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There's a company called Halex, I believe, that makes a flush bushing that clips in a threaded hub to grab a romex cable.
If you could find it let us know.
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I like to drill a new 1/2" hole in the back back of the box and use this connector. The part that extrudes out of the back of the box is smaller than the knockout, so you don't have to make a big hole on the brick or hardi board siding. The lip you see in the picture is designed to be inside the enclosure.

The trickiest part for me on these installs is not busting a pringles sized piece of the face of the brick when i make the hole. Some bricks just dont care how small of a drill bit you use.

Last step is to caulk the everything good.

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I like to drill a new 1/2" hole in the back back of the box and use this connector. The part that extrudes out of the back of the box is smaller than the knockout, so you don't have to make a big hole on the brick or hardi board siding. The lip you see in the picture is designed to be inside the enclosure.

The trickiest part for me on these installs is not busting a pringles sized piece of the face of the brick when i make the hole. Some bricks just dont care how small of a drill bit you use.

Last step is to caulk the everything good. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...207f5ddcdb.jpg
Thats why I don't like making the larger hole at all, a 1/2" hole with a long bit is all you need for the cable, and I don't want to have to open it up any further for the connector.

BTW, the connector that you pictured is an off-brand version of the Raco Insider. They work well in certain instances, but not in this application. There is no room on the back of an outdoor single gang or round box to drill a new hole without making it too close to the edge, which risks exposing any chipping of the brick around the hole.
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BTW, the connector that you pictured is an off-brand version of the Raco Insider. They work well in certain instances, but not in this application. There is no room on the back of an outdoor single gang or round box to drill a new hole without making it too close to the edge, which risks exposing any chipping of the brick around the hole.
Here we go again, hackworks telling me the way i do it is stupid, or impossible, or when he does it it doesn't work well. I said what i do, and have done for years.

It works great and i have plenty of room in the bell box. I do ten of these a week around Christmas time, so I KNOW it works. OP asked for suggestions, i gave him what works for me. I guess this is on me though for not implicitly saying "this is what i do, and it could only possibly work for me."

Like i said, drilling the hole on the brick is tricky. Not impossible.

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Here we go again, hackworks telling me the way i do it is stupid, or impossible, or when he does it it doesn't work well. I said what i do, and have done for years.
What do you want? It's stupid. Sorry for hurting your feelings.

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Nope, I asked for a connector that threads into the hub. Not some cobbled together garbage. drilling a new KO off center in the back of an outdoor box and using an Insider connector is absolutely idiotic. You still need to drill a larger hole in the brick for it.

10 a week?

@MTW, the troll is back.

This is the guy who cried saying that I should follow code, but got the code completely wrong that he said I should follow

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Last few I've done, I cut out half brick and flush mounted the box. I mortared the box in.
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Last few I've done, I cut out half brick and flush mounted the box. I mortared the box in.
That's the nice way to do it, but definitely labor intensive versus surface mounting.
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That's the nice way to do it, but definitely labor intensive versus surface mounting.
My best friend is a brick layer. He taught me how to knock out half a brick with a hammer. It's takes a couple of minutes, unless the brick is hardened like the old yellow brick homes. Those are as hard as glass.
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Romex into outdoor box? Nice try, but why would threaded steel nm connector be any better?

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This might work for you...
Raco 4714 Cable Connector, Sheathed, 1/2

https://www.amazon.com/Raco-4714-Cab.../dp/B000R8147I
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I hear you Hax, it's a pain in the ass. I do it the difficult way and use an 1 1/2" bit to make enough of a hole for the connector (I usually have to do this with MC, not romex, but the connectors are the same size. Same principle with EMT), then zip the smaller hole through the rest of the brick. I always use a connector, be it romex or MC. It's just how I was taught. Arlington should just make a bell box with a regular knockout in the back, since this install is common as hell, and is a problem we shouldn't still have to be dealing with in 2018.
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Yeah, they make those in plastic too, like the one I posted. Never heard them called a wet connector, just a strain relief.

That's one of the cool things about the Platt website, you can search on slang terms and product terms. I have found different manufactures call the same item different things anyway.
The term wet connector isn't one I've heard before, it's a strain relief to me.

How the word "conduit" gets in the name is stranger yet.
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I don’t know how making a hole big enough to fit a connector is such a big deal. You need to make a hole so make it big enough to begin with. This thread reminds me of a teen aged girl distraught over the color of her phone.
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I'm trying to find a reasonable solution here.

I actually try to find a code compliant way to do something and you guys yell at me
Seems to me bringing romex into an surface mount exterior box is far from code compliant if the inspector sees it.
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Seems to me bringing romex into an surface mount exterior box is far from code compliant if the inspector sees it.
I've not ever heard of inspectors raising a stink about it on the forum.
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I've not ever heard of inspectors raising a stink about it on the forum.
Oh it's been brought up several times.
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Oh it's been brought up several times.
What seemed to be the solution from the AHJ?
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Here we go again, hackworks telling me the way i do it is stupid, or impossible, or when he does it it doesn't work well. I said what i do, and have done for years.

It works great and i have plenty of room in the bell box. I do ten of these a week around Christmas time, so I KNOW it works. OP asked for suggestions, i gave him what works for me. I guess this is on me though for not implicitly saying "this is what i do, and it could only possibly work for me."

Like i said, drilling the hole on the brick is tricky. Not impossible.
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