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Old 12-27-2018, 03:50 PM   #61
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We have the sealed boxes, though ours seem to be plastic and I haven't been on a job yet where they have been required, so I can't speak to that yet.
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Old 12-27-2018, 04:12 PM   #62
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I don't strip during the rough in because I don't want the wires painted and I can easily determine which ones have been hacked up by the rotozip.
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I was wondering about this since the cable is already in the box unskinned. A pliers style wonít work.
Iíve used this same one for 2 years and it works great. You just have to get it between the jacket and the paper. It does not like the paper very much.
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I have never used one. What’s good?

I was roughing in a house yesterday and it was cold enough that the jacket was really tough to skin. I made the decision to stuff the cable into the boxes unskinned and come back when it warms up or they get heat in the place.

I normally just use a utility knife but maybe there’s a better way.
No doubt that i’m old school... I have never found a Romex stripper that I liked... still use my knife, and keep the tip very sharp.
(Funny.. the spell checker tried to change Romex to “Rolex”)
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Just wait... When @macmikeman gets out of bed this morning he will jump on here and say he has never seen a "stripper" that he didn't like!
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No doubt that iím old school... I have never found a Romex stripper that I liked... still use my knife, and keep the tip very sharp.
(Funny.. the spell checker tried to change Romex to ďRolexĒ)
I like hook blades in a razor knife for stripping.
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It's bad enough having to trim a job. Why would anyone want to punish themselves by making up the taps on the trim too?
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I still find it a bit difficult to understand why someone would not strip the jacket off before putting it in the box though regardless if they do the connections before rough.

In the end there is no difference... just preference I guess.
I agree with you, I can't understand why someone would do it that way, only difference is that I believe there is in-fact a difference between the two methods. It's harder to strip the sheath off the cable after it's in the box.

I understand that some might say that it is harder to push the cable into the box if the 3 or 4 conductors are loose, and I would agree with that. So that is why making the cut with the romex strippers first, then pushing the cable into the box, then pulling off the sheath once it's in the box is by far the fastest and safest method. It's also the method which doesn't require you to bend over or kneel down to see into a box 13-16" from the floor and carefully cut the sheath with a knife to avoid cutting into the conductors.

I asked why someone would do this by choice earlier, but no one answered.
I don't mind doing panels with the jacket still on, there's a lot more room to work and you can see what you're doing.
I miss the " good old days " when the drywallers measured all the boxes and cut them out with a hand saw before putting the sheets up. Practically 0 damaged wires, and a much neater job, way less mud in the boxes as well.
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I don't mind doing panels with the jacket still on, there's a lot more room to work and you can see what you're doing.
I miss the " good old days " when the drywallers measured all the boxes and cut them out with a hand saw before putting the sheets up. Practically 0 damaged wires, and a much neater job, way less mud in the boxes as well.

How does cutting the hole before hand reduce the amount of mud that ends up in the box?
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How does cutting the hole before hand reduce the amount of mud that ends up in the box?
Because many drywallers can't handle the rotozip very well and most boxes need to be spackled around.
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Iíve used this same one for 2 years and it works great. You just have to get it between the jacket and the paper. It does not like the paper very much.
Paper? You guys have paper on Romex? Thatís so 70ís.
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Paper? You guys have paper on Romex? Thatís so 70ís.

Not on it. In it. Like so:
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Not on it. In it. Like so:
Nothing like adding a combustible material right beside an ignition source...

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Nothing like adding a combustible material right beside an ignition source...

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I don't care for the paper, but I am pretty sure it won't like on fire inside of the jacket where there is no air and it is up tight against the jack. The paper on drywall won't light on fire while it is up against the drywall either.
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I thought the main reason you can't use Romex in wet locations was the paper, there's no paper on Canadian Romex? So do you still have to use UF in wet locations?

It's my understanding that the paper in Romex is treated with a flame ret'rdant, but the flame ret'rdant is not waterproof, so when romex gets wet, the paper becomes a hazard.
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Nothing like adding a combustible material right beside an ignition source...

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I really wouldn't mind Romex with three insulated wires and no paper.
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I like this when I rough....works great works really great on UF too, which was the sole reason behind purchasing them

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Do they have one that works on #10 DB NM?
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I really wouldn't mind Romex with three insulated wires and no paper.
Me too, I really don't like the bare ground. And the paper serves no purpose other than being a pain in the ass.
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I thought the main reason you can't use Romex in wet locations was the paper, there's no paper on Canadian Romex? So do you still have to use UF in wet locations?
Romex NMD90 (non-metallic Dry/Damp 90*) in Canada does not have paper. It is rated for dry or damp locations. Not rated for conduit use either.

Wet and Underground is a Romex too, NMWU (non-metallic Wet Underground). No temperature rating because all underground wire is rated at 60*. One of the reasons in Canada you cannot use NMWU for lighting applications unless it is a pendant style such as a "pigtail" or approved 60* fixture; Rab makes a bunch of the PVC mounted fixtures that can be used with 60* wiring; I am sure other companies do to.

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I don't care for the paper, but I am pretty sure it won't like on fire inside of the jacket where there is no air and it is up tight against the jack. The paper on drywall won't light on fire while it is up against the drywall either.
You are probably right... but I would not consider the gypsum or the wood /steel stud to be an ignition source like I would a hot copper conductor on a device or in a junction box. Then again maybe the plastic receptacle or wire nut is worse then the paper.

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