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zac 12-18-2016 05:41 PM

Roughing in New Home
 
Quick question for y'all?
I primarily use wagos for my remodels and service calls. They cost more per unit but I believe labor makes up for it. It also allows more room for dimmers and gfcis in old boxes. I'm wondering what you guys prefer for new homes and if the wagos cause arc fault concerns?
Thanks!

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chicken steve 12-18-2016 05:54 PM

I cut wagos out of every product & think they are satanic Zac....

~CS~

zac 12-18-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken steve (Post 3475289)
I cut wagos out of every product & think they are satanic Zac....

~CS~

Well you're a wacko! But thanks for you reply.

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gnuuser 12-18-2016 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac (Post 3475265)
Quick question for y'all?
I primarily use wagos for my remodels and service calls. They cost more per unit but I believe labor makes up for it. It also allows more room for dimmers and gfcis in old boxes. I'm wondering what you guys prefer for new homes and if the wagos cause arc fault concerns?
Thanks!

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providing the material is suitably heavy enough to handle the current I have no problem with them.

the biggest issue ive seen with a lot of materials is that sometimes a H.O. or "non electrician" will use undersized materials because they cost less and the end result is often fires
as an electrician this annoys me a lot,:mad: But as a volunteer fireman it worries me a lot. no one likes to see a fire:(

99cents 12-18-2016 06:04 PM

I love Wagos almost as much as I love Lotus Lights :vs_love:

Go for it. zac, and sleep well...

99cents 12-18-2016 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken steve (Post 3475289)
I cut wagos out of every product & think they are satanic Zac....

~CS~

Purists. :shifty:

LawnGuyLandSparky 12-18-2016 06:09 PM

So you're roughing in a new house, box fill should never be a problem. Stick to deep boxes for the switches / future dimmers and the use of wirenuts should never present a problem.

chicken steve 12-18-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac (Post 3475297)
Well you're a wacko! But thanks for you reply.

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You're equally acknowledged wondering if you can sneak that crap past enhanced ocpd technology Zac.....

~CS~

zac 12-18-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky (Post 3475329)
So you're roughing in a new house, box fill should never be a problem. Stick to deep boxes for the switches / future dimmers and the use of wirenuts should never present a problem.

I spend a few more dollars and go deep in all my switches and 20 - 22 cu for receptacles. If I did homes all the time I'd make a system

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splatz 12-18-2016 06:14 PM

I ask this all the time -

* Wagos use a mechanism similar to a backstab receptacle
* There's no shortage of firsthand accounts of bad connections with backstabs
* Therefore many people distrust wagos

However do people have firsthand accounts of bad wago connections?

zac 12-18-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatz (Post 3475369)
I ask this all the time -

* Wagos use a mechanism similar to a backstab receptacle
* There's no shortage of firsthand accounts of bad connections with backstabs
* Therefore many people distrust wagos

However do people have firsthand accounts of bad wago connections?

The difference splatz is that receptacles are having devices plugged in and out of them. This I believe causes the spring action to give.
The complaint I heard about wagos..15 years ago, is that if you had a number 10 and 12 in the same Wago, the number 12 could pop out. The job was a 12 story hotel and there were several incidents.

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telsa 12-18-2016 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zac (Post 3475377)
The difference splatz is that receptacles are having devices plugged in and out of them. This I believe causes the spring action to give.
The complaint I heard about wagos..15 years ago, is that if you had a number 10 and 12 in the same Wago, the number 12 could pop out. The job was a 12 story hotel and there were several incidents.

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The classic Wago is not listed for #10.

Only the more recent stuff, sometimes, is listed for #10.

PlugsAndLights 12-18-2016 07:28 PM

Wouldn't mind trying the levered wagos, but since they're something like
6 times the price of marettes ( around here anyways), the choice couldn't
be easier.
P&L

99cents 12-18-2016 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatz (Post 3475369)
I ask this all the time -

* Wagos use a mechanism similar to a backstab receptacle
* There's no shortage of firsthand accounts of bad connections with backstabs
* Therefore many people distrust wagos

However do people have firsthand accounts of bad wago connections?

Not one in five years. How many Halo connections go bad? There are millions of Halo cans out there and, if they were failing, we would hear about it.

Majewski 12-18-2016 08:31 PM

Wagos are the devil!

macmikeman 12-18-2016 08:37 PM

Wago's are fine. They cost more than a tan twister wire nut so I don't use em much. The only time I use a box smaller than a 20 or a 21 cu inch is when there isn't enough room to get one in. I don't even think twice about it.

catsparky1 12-18-2016 09:42 PM

Wire nuts have started more fires than wagos . Before you react to me think about what I just said .

If you argue the point you are a fool !!!!!

Why cant we just solder and tape like we used to .

zac 12-18-2016 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catsparky1 (Post 3475857)
Wire nuts have started more fires than wagos . Before you react to me think about what I just said .

If you argue the point you are a fool !!!!!

Why cant we just solder and tape like we used to .

Because it's a pain to troubleshoot! Didn't you read in my original post that I do a lot of service calls[emoji12]

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zac 12-18-2016 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Majewski (Post 3475713)
Wagos are the devil!

You've been hanging with the chicken man I see!
Quote:

Originally Posted by gnuuser (Post 3475305)
providing the material is suitably heavy enough to handle the current I have no problem with them.

the biggest issue ive seen with a lot of materials is that sometimes a H.O. or "non electrician" will use undersized materials because they cost less and the end result is often fires
as an electrician this annoys me a lot,:mad: But as a volunteer fireman it worries me a lot. no one likes to see a fire:(


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Majewski 12-18-2016 10:11 PM

I stock each kind of wago you can buy around me...... Just because I think they are evil doesn't mean I don't use em!


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