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Old 07-23-2015, 12:22 AM   #1
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When doing a new house or just a new kitchen, do you run your NM for the counters above or below the receptacle boxes?
Meaning the horizontal run between boxes.

Which ever way, why do you do it that way?
Just a curiosity thing, I've done it both ways. Just thought I would see which way/why everyone else does it.
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Old 07-23-2015, 12:25 AM   #2
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It really depends on where the best access is for running the wires. Done it both ways you've described.
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It's usually a mishmash, especially when it comes to the framing around windows. Sometimes it's just easier to go up and across the ceiling.
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It's usually a mishmash, especially when it comes to the framing around windows. Sometimes it's just easier to go up and across the ceiling.
Done plenty of that this week. They used pre-fabbed walls and they had to re-do a lot especially around windows. Had 4-5 deep 2x4s and no room to drill, so UP & Over they went!

I just got to thinking after determining my homerun box which way is better to head to the next box. No windows or anything just wide open to the next box. Above or below, I didn't see a compelling reason for either way.
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Try to keep it between the countertop and upper cabinet heights so the cabinet installers don't screw into it.
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Try to keep it between the countertop and upper cabinet heights so the cabinet installers don't screw into it.

Don't worry. The siders will get it.
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Don't worry. The siders will get it.
I won't pull any wire anymore till all the siding and trim is up. Nailguns will shoot a nail right thru T-111 and nail plates, and into a cable drilled in the center of a 2x4 exterior wall. (mostly all we get around here...). Current building code here requires #8 or longer siding nails. It gets a bit hotter working in a closed in house, but it sure keeps the wire from getting shot by tards.
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I won't pull any wire anymore till all the siding and trim is up. Nailguns will shoot a nail right thru T-111 and nail plates, and into a cable drilled in the center of a 2x4 exterior wall. (mostly all we get around here...). Current building code here requires #8 or longer siding nails. It gets a bit hotter working in a closed in house, but it sure keeps the wire from getting shot by tards.
That never happens,,,,well maybe it does....

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I won't pull any wire anymore till all the siding and trim is up. Nailguns will shoot a nail right thru T-111 and nail plates, and into a cable drilled in the center of a 2x4 exterior wall. (mostly all we get around here...). Current building code here requires #8 or longer siding nails. It gets a bit hotter working in a closed in house, but it sure keeps the wire from getting shot by tards.
It doesn't matter how long you wait.

SOMEONE WILL eff up your work sometime.
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I have always run the wire below the receptacle box. Never had an issue
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When doing a new house or just a new kitchen, do you run your NM for the counters above or below the receptacle boxes?
Meaning the horizontal run between boxes.

Which ever way, why do you do it that way?
Just a curiosity thing, I've done it both ways. Just thought I would see which way/why everyone else does it.
I am not a residential wire man but I recently completed my kitchen. I did not know the short cuts. Looking back I wish I had just gone from each receptacle straight down to the unfinished basement and tied into j-boxes.
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I am not a residential wire man but I recently completed my kitchen. I did not know the short cuts. Looking back I wish I had just gone from each receptacle straight down to the unfinished basement and tied into j-boxes.
Then you'll kick yourself when you finish the basement.
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Then you'll kick yourself when you finish the basement.
That's for sure.
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I usually run my wires above the boxes, but it depends on the job.
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Did that trip the breaker?
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To me, in any situation, the make up always seems easier and cleaner when the cables enter at the top.
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Mount a sub and feed it with 40a, run every receptacle to a dedicated 20a breaker. Now you can put any appliance anywhere you want.
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I nail plate ever stud where there is a bored hole with wires in it, where I know there is a base or upper cabinet going.
I've seen how long some of those screws are the cabinet installers use.


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