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Old 06-15-2009, 03:29 PM   #41
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we have only a couple of guys left who still smoke (maybe 1 in 20). Over the years we have even tried incentives to help the guys quite smoking (example, we offered one apprentice a 12 months bonus for the amount he would have spent on smokes if he could prove that he had quite, he gave it up after he'd been with us for about 6 months and he's been off of them for over a year now).

As T.O. sparky pointed out, with Ontario being smoke free now, it is illegal to smoke in a service van (or any company vehicle for that matter) as it is considered a workplace. I know there are a lot of guys who have had a hard time enforcing that. We've been lucky though, a lot of the guys won't put up with it.
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:42 PM   #42
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we have only a couple of guys left who still smoke (maybe 1 in 20). Over the years we have even tried incentives to help the guys quite smoking (example, we offered one apprentice a 12 months bonus for the amount he would have spent on smokes if he could prove that he had quite, he gave it up after he'd been with us for about 6 months and he's been off of them for over a year now).

As T.O. sparky pointed out, with Ontario being smoke free now, it is illegal to smoke in a service van (or any company vehicle for that matter) as it is considered a workplace. I know there are a lot of guys who have had a hard time enforcing that. We've been lucky though, a lot of the guys won't put up with it.
And it makes a smelly mess of the trucks.

I know many find it very hard to quit this habit, but in the long run everyone benefits, health wise, monetarily, minimizing foul odors and seeing the grand kids.
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Old 06-15-2009, 04:48 PM   #43
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I have notice less and less smokers in the trade up here, might have something to do with the restricitions and the pricing. A cheap pack of smokes ran over $10.00 the name brands upwards of 12 with a nice little tax added on in the end. No smoking inside any business so you go outside to the street in some cases not a pleseant thing at 40 below.

After 42 years smoking I quit about 4 months ago. I tried the lazer therapy which many told me would not work, whether it worked or was all in my head I never wanted another smoke after.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:06 PM   #44
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After 42 years smoking I quit about 4 months ago. I tried the lazer therapy which many told me would not work, whether it worked or was all in my head I never wanted another smoke after.
LAZER???????????????????????


When I started smoking in 1966, I paid 16 cents a pack at the PX overseas. Now they are more than 16 cents a cigarette.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:14 PM   #45
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Hey Brian-- remember this thread from a few years ago at Mike Holt's. I thought Bob and Smart were going to kill each other. It was a wild read back then and still is.
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http://www.freedomlasertherapy.com/h...rapy_works.htm

It seems to work at least for me and it was covered by my insurance.

As for cost when I started smoking 35 cents a pack or you could buy the expensive imported (American) for 50 cents a pack. But then you could smoke anywhere you pleased, taxi, planes, stores, theatres. I remember a doctor advised my mother to start smoking for her nerves back then, I hate to say this but I think I might of had something to do with that.
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Hey Brian-- remember this thread from a few years ago at Mike Holt's. I thought Bob and Smart were going to kill each other. It was a wild read back then and still is.
Oh yeah I remember that, Smoking has it supporters and anti smoking zealots.

For an employer it is an issue we have to be concerned with all the time.

Some customers are sticklers for smoking on site, others look the other way. Me I tell my guys that it has to be per the on site policy which is NO SMOKING.

I was watching two very hot women smoking at a customers site the other day and was thinking how stupid they looked. Sucking in a lit product, smoke in, smoke out just does not seem logical.
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I was watching two very hot women smoking at a customers site the other day and was thinking how stupid they looked. Sucking in a lit product smoke in smoke out just does not seem logical.

I hear ya and for me it really hits home. My sister died from lung cancer at 45. My wife and I took care of her for 5 months, at our home, until she passed away. Interestingly enough she quit smoking 3 years previous to her diagnosis. Real bummer.
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Old 06-15-2009, 05:50 PM   #49
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I was at a electricians funeral last Thursday, he died rather quickly, lung cancer. I worked with him in January, he was constantly running off to smoke. Two weeks ago he went to the hospital, they found one lung gone, gave him a year to live. Died in a week and a half.
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Marlboro's cost about 7.45 here in the DC area...
I've been smoking since i was like 15....i want to quit...but it's really hard man. I have heard about Chantix or whatever, but i don't want to take a pill for anything. I don't even take tylenol, or aspirin for a headache...
Anyway...Maybe if i get hooked up with a good family doctor i will get on the patch or something...i've heard smoking cessation is covered by my insurance at 100%...i don't know if it's true....we'll see.

Brian, did you ever smoke in your life?
No It seems like less and less people are smoking. But maybe its just the circle of people I am in.
I'm not picking on you but I find it very ironic that you are anti-meds but you seem to have no problem breathing in all the harmful chemicals found in cigarettes. And I take it that you are into Buddhism judging by you name. Also ironic
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I smoked for about 10 years, most of my 20's. I cant even tell you how many times I quit before it actually stuck. For me I started to develop a serious morning cough. I would cough for like the first hour after I woke up. One day on my way to work I just got fed up with it and threw my pack out the window and never looked back . For me cold turkey seemed to work the best. All those aids like the patch and gum only prolong the agony. And let me tell you it really sucks.
When it got real bad for me I would go out and run until it made me sick. The pain I felt from running gave my brain something else to contend with other than wanting a cigarette. I even had my wife litterally smack the **** out of me when it got really bad for me. At first she was very hesitant about it but she quickly got on board. Hey I can hear you laughing but it really worked for me.
Physical pain is a great medium for getting your brain to stop thinking about smoking. And to really do it right you gonna have to change your daily habbits for a while. Like staying away from bars, drinking, and if you work with alot of folks that smoke at work it might be better for you to eat lunch alone for a while, which will give you more time to read up on your EC maggazines and stuff. I never tried the pills so I cant offer any help there.
And along with the the amazing and almost immediate health benefits like getting a more restfull sleep, having tons of extra energy, a boost in your labido and let me tell you I personally got a huge boost, your gonna start to notice that you have a nice little nut of extra money every month which is also a plus. And I musnt forget you might even notice a little boost in your daily production due to less "trips" to the truck for a quick smoke.
If you are really interested I can pm you tons of little ways to help you quit. And if you are serious about quiting dont forget that relapses are just part of the process and its perfectly normal. But in the end the most important step in quiting is the "real" desire to stop.
You can do it, if I can anyone can.But next to passing my license test and completing boot camp and Infantry school quiting smoking is one of my most proudest achievements.
Anyway for any of you guys that want to stop I really wish you all the best of luck. I have personally have seen two people die from lung cancer and it has to be the worst way to die. From what they told me it is kind of like trying to breath through a pillow.
Best of luck guys you can do it.
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"I even had my wife litterally smack the **** out of me when it got really bad for me. At first she was very hesitant about it but she quickly got on board." -CaptKirk

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I just got fed up with it and threw my pack out the window and never looked back .

Kirk it's not cool to litter. You should've just given your pack to some other smoker.
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Best way to quit smoking is to start dipping! Works for me!
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That is just as bad.. lots of ball players are finding that out now. There is no free lunch when it comes to tobacco
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"I even had my wife litterally smack the **** out of me when it got really bad for me. At first she was very hesitant about it but she quickly got on board." -CaptKirk

You MUST add this to your sigfile.
I think it shows you my resolve in quiting. It really was one of the hardest things Ive ever done. And for about three weeks, I was the nastiest person to be around. But when my wife quit (about three years before me) she really had no problem with it. And she would have an occasional from time to time but no real relapse. Everyone is different.

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I think it shows you my resolve in quiting.
I understand.
It's been 2 months for me (this time) but I'm confident it will stick.
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I understand.
It's been 2 months for me (this time) but I'm confident it will stick.
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I understand.
It's been 2 months for me (this time) but I'm confident it will stick.
Cold Turkey!
Good for you man. You can totally do it. Dont you feel better already? You got past the hard part now its basically all mental.
This is the point were you need to stay away from anything that will trigger your urge. Like going out for a drink, playing poker, hanging out with people that are smoking (for some reason when you tell a smoker that you quit they really dont like that and in my case many of them would still offer me a smoke, and say something like "oh thats right you quit" and roll their eyes)
For me the hardest thing was doing stuff around the house without a smoke hanging out of my mouth.
And dont fall into the trap if telling yourself "well I guess its ok to have one, now that Ive made it this far" or even fool yourself into having a cigar, trusssssssst me your not there yet. Think of yourself as being still in "recovery". Even a cigar or dip will get you smoking again in no time. After a few months go by you will have reconditoned your brain into doing all these things without the need of a cigarette or any tobacco.

I really think the reason so many people have such a hard time stopping is because the tobacco companies have really amped up the nicotine in cigarettes in the past 20 years.
Keep up the good work dude it will only get easier from here, trust me.

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Well smoked for at least 40 years iam now 57 last year i had a heart attack it was not from smoking totally but eating habits and family history .

That said i spent 14 days in hospital and home 2 months rest when i was in the hospital i never wanted or needed a smoke it was the best thing ive done in my life .
Actually the heart attack made me quit and the time in the hospital helped me quit .

Take this advise i know you will not but its good advise dont start and stop if you can .

I wish i had the dollars i spent on them smokes they make your blood pressure go up ! They increase the stress on you heart and cuts down your oxygen to your brain so quit now .

When i was told these things from others though the years i laughed !

Never thought id be saying this myself .

Take care it was a three pack a day kinda thing !!
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good for you nick. Its never too late to stop. Smoking also causes your arteries to become sticky with goo and over time they cause them to harden with plaque which can also lead to a stroke.
My wife told me that when heavy smokers are in surgury and they are cut open their body cavities even smell like smoke. Yuckkkk how nasty is that. eeeeeeeeeewwwwwww. If that doesnt make you stop I dont know what will.
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