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Old 12-25-2018, 11:13 AM   #21
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That cut in box has quite the wiggle to it when they go to put in the GFCI. The snap in romex connector on the inside is a nice touch too.

If this guy and Corey from Lowes got together it would be the dream team. Commercial and resi they can do it all.
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Old 12-25-2018, 11:41 AM   #22
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They forgot the last step: Take it back apart and fix the splices that they did not twist together.
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...the outrageous electrical advice Iíve overheard customers receive from the orange-vested guruís...
A few years ago at the big orange store:
Customer: I need to replace these two 15A breakers. Can I just use one 30A, because it's cheaper?
Orange Guru: Ya, I can't see why not.

I usually keep my mouth shut and continue my shopping, but I had to say something there.
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Old 12-29-2018, 12:27 AM   #24
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From now on I'm gonna use the SDS and the longest bit I can find for it for everything, **** it just send it on through!
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Old 12-29-2018, 12:46 AM   #25
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From now on I'm gonna use the SDS and the longest bit I can find for it for everything, **** it just send it on through!

I put the long one in the drill once because of all the mechanical duct in the way to get me a drop in anchor for a hanger up on the ceiling once. I ended up drilling out a conduit concealed in the ceiling pour. That was a Friday afternoon. On Monday morning the building management asked me if they could hire me to figure out why the parking lights on the 6th floor aren't working and to fix the issue. I kinda knew what was the problem, but I kept my mouth shut about it while I tried to find the spot between lights that was shorted. Couldn't . So , checked the start of the circuit in the basement. Found double pole contactors running the lights, one per floor. I swung the offending bad circuit up at the lights onto the other side of the circuit, which shared a neutral, and disconnected both ends of the bad circuit . The amps were less than ten on a twenty amp breaker with #12 anyway once it was all fixed. $$$ . I'm a bad bad boy.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:43 AM   #26
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I like finding tape on the wire nuts, then I know it's a handyman or homeowner job and I can act accordingly. Especially if it's a troubleshoot job.
I installed a $10 000 fixture at a house the other day... The instructions said to tape the wire nuts on so they do not fall off... Best part is... This fixture had wago lever nuts for me, but the factory did not tape their wire nuts! (for the record, I do not ever tape wire nuts weather the instructions say to or not).
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I tried to explain to my father, who I always made fun of for all the taped wirenuts in our house, how if you have to tape on the wirenut then you failed to install it properly.

It's like taping a nut onto a bolt.
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I like how the inside recep was held in place with drywall screws. And at 0:12 the light pole blocking the existing GFCI cover opening from the last HDDIY video LOL
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I love the 5/8" sds they just plow right thru the existing box. Who cares if the hole pops right thru the siding overlap.
That's all taken care of in the "How to reside your house after you watched our other how to videos"
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He wrapped his pigtail on the hot screw in the wrong direction.
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Wish Iíd known that, I guess Iíve been doing it wrong all along.


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Old 03-01-2019, 11:40 PM   #32
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I tried to explain to my father, who I always made fun of for all the taped wirenuts in our house, how if you have to tape on the wirenut then you failed to install it properly.

It's like taping a nut onto a bolt.
It's what I think of you twist the wires with your linesman's guy! It's a redundant step if your using the right wire nut. Now I'm not putting you on the level of a wire nut taper. I think it's more of a conscience thing.


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It's what I think of you twist the wires with your linesman's guy! It's a redundant step if your using the right wire nut. Now I'm not putting you on the level of a wire nut taper. I think it's more of a conscience thing.
Pre-twisting wires with pliers is more for easiness than anything else. Itís easier to twist the wires with a tool made for that purpose than to twist them with the wire nut using my fingertips.

As I mentioned the last time you tried to hurt my feelings like this, I did it more when using three or four number 12 conductors in the past. Or when dealing with existing short wires that are hard to hold together. Nowadays, with 2-3 new number 14, I will just throw the wire nut on. Or lever nut.
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Pre-twisting wires with pliers is more for easiness than anything else. Itís easier to twist the wires with a tool made for that purpose than to twist them with the wire nut using my fingertips.
True but I'd say holding the wire nut in a dottie brand socket like @zac uses, or a 5/16" wrench like I use, or the Ideal screwdriver with the wire nut socket in the butt, are even quicker easier ways to twist.
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True but I'd say holding the wire nut in a dottie brand socket like @zac uses, or a 5/16" wrench like I use, or the Ideal screwdriver with the wire nut socket in the butt, are even quicker easier ways to twist.
I don't see it being any quicker. Even if it was, I am not counting split seconds. And you are still using a tool, so what's the difference...
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It is quicker. And if we're doing it all day the difference in time would be quite noticeable. The only advantage twisting wires with linesman pliers gives you is Popeye forearms.

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It is quicker. And if we're doing it all day the difference in time would be quite noticeable. The only advantage twisting wires with linesman pliers gives you is Popeye forearms.
I'll agree with you if you're talking about 2 or 3 conductors. Otherwise, it's much easier to pretwist them.

Now, if you simply use red wing nuts all the time on #14 without pretwisting, I can see a case being made for that. I remember seeing a lot of work in California done that way in new houses. It was all red wing nuts everywhere, they didn't use any other kind of connector.
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I'll agree with you if you're talking about 2 or 3 conductors. Otherwise, it's much easier to pretwist them.

Now, if you simply use red wing nuts all the time on #14 without pretwisting, I can see a case being made for that. I remember seeing a lot of work in California done that way in new houses. It was all red wing nuts everywhere, they didn't use any other kind of connector.
I will line up to 4 wires and twist a red or tan wire on with no problem. I pull the wires to make sure their in secure because I'm not!
Half the time I'm using wago's anyway

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3M red/yellows and blue/oranges are the best wirenuts known to man.
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