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Old 02-06-2017, 02:00 PM   #21
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I wish I could just sweep the floor for what I make an hour.
I still do.

If I get finished with my tasks and the job needs to be cleaned up, I go get the broom.

There isn't a job that's beneath me. If it needs to be done, it needs to be done.
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:34 PM   #22
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You should have introduced yourself.

Funny, I did my 4 year apprenticeship and then worked 4 years for a company. I actually talked to the boss one time. I seen him in the flesh maybe 3 times. The first time a my journeyman was talking to someone going into a bank. We were working next door. When done talking the guy goes into the bank and my journeyman turns to me and says "that's your boss".

The only time I talked to him was when they gave me a service truck. One day I stopped by the shop and he was in the office. The girl gave me a work order and he looks up and says "we can do anything" If you are unsure call the office and we will send help. That was it.

He was quite successful and busy doing other tings I guess. He did sign the cheques tho. Four other guys and three ladies ran the business on a day to day basis.

We have a few streets named after him here.
All my employees know who I am, he had been in my office at Christmas for a talk about his work, review and bonus.
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...There isn't a job that's beneath me. If it needs to be done, it needs to be done.
That's always my response:

There's no busywork here, it's all gotta get done. So if you don't do it, I will. But if I gotta do my job and yours, there's no reason for you to be here at all.
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Old 02-06-2017, 07:21 PM   #24
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Never ask someone to do a job you wouldn't do yourself.

It never hurts to let those under you see you do something they figure you wouldn't do now and then.
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On a related note, there is nothing more frustrating than the guys waiting in their car until 7 on the dot.

Was working a job recently that had me driving quite a ways to get to site. Some of my guys lived a couple minutes away. Some mornings I would get there a couple minutes late and my guys would be sitting there eating, drinking coffee, listening to the radio, waiting for me to come in. Though I did love sneaking up on them and scaring the **** out of them by banging on their car window. Get your ass in and get set up for the day, for the most part they dont need me delegating work every morning, they can get working.

One guy who lived down the street would drive to site, and then fall asleep in his car. He was literally a couple minutes away. He seems to have learned his lesson in regards to sleeping on breaks and such at least.
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You should have introduced yourself.

Funny, I did my 4 year apprenticeship and then worked 4 years for a company. I actually talked to the boss one time. I seen him in the flesh maybe 3 times. The first time a my journeyman was talking to someone going into a bank. We were working next door. When done talking the guy goes into the bank and my journeyman turns to me and says "that's your boss"...
Pretty much the same for me. The company I worked for employed over 100 employees, and the owner was like a ghost. Saw him occasionally at company gatherings and very rare job site visits. Never really appreciated his style of management (keep busy, and you've got employment year round) until he sold the company to a big corporation. Then things changed there, and not for the better.

Anyways, like others have said, if you are on the clock, do something. Anything! Sort materials in the storage unit. Sweep. Pick up pipe pieces and wire scraps, even if it wasn't your JM who made the mess.
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When I worked construction, we had two apprentices arguing over not going for break. Both though the other should go as getting break was beneath them. I got a list together and went got break. They missed out on coffee that day and as usual as I learned while a helper I got my break for free.
Someone leaves the job for break? I might come unglued for that.
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I can sit in a tree stand in freezing weather half a day waiting for a shot at a nice buck but I flip out sitting in a vehicle and waiting for anything.

Anytime I had to meet a boss at a site to go over what was to be done I'd dread the wait but still got there a few minutes early.
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Someone leaves the job for break? I might come unglued for that.
Normally one apprentice makes the run for everyone.
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